Magnetic Field of a Thin Conducting Plate

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnetic field generated by a large, thin conducting plate carrying a uniform current in the y direction, using Ampere's Law. Participants are exploring the implications of the geometry of the setup and the application of relevant equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion about how to initiate the problem and the appropriate use of Ampere's Law. There are discussions about the geometry of the path to be used for applying the law, including considerations of a rectangular loop and the significance of the sections where the magnetic field is parallel to the path.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the use of a rectangular path for applying Ampere's Law and have clarified the relationship between the current density σ and the total current enclosed by the path. Multiple interpretations of the setup and the application of the law are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to visualize the geometry and the implications of the current distribution across the plate. There is an emphasis on understanding the components of the magnetic field in relation to the chosen path for Ampere's Law.

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A very, large, thin conducting plate lies in the x-y plane. The plate carries a current in the y direction. The current is uniformly distributed over the plate with σ amperes flowing across each meter of length perpendicular to the current. Use Ampere's Law to find the magnetic field at some distance from the plate. (Hint: The magnetic field lines are parallel to the plate.)

Homework Equations


Ampere's Law:
∫B|| ds = μ0*I

3. The Attempt at a Solution :
I'm completely lost on where to even start this question. I guess that you may have to use a Gausian cylinder or rectangular prism.
 
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dww52 said:
A very, large, thin conducting plate lies in the x-y plane. The plate carries a current in the y direction. The current is uniformly distributed over the plate with σ amperes flowing across each meter of length perpendicular to the current. Use Ampere's Law to find the magnetic field at some distance from the plate. (Hint: The magnetic field lines are parallel to the plate.)

Homework Equations


Ampere's Law:
∫B|| ds = μ0*I

3. The Attempt at a Solution :
I'm completely lost on where to even start this question. I guess that you may have to use a Gausian cylinder or rectangular prism.

For Ampere's Law, instead of a surface you are looking for a closed loop to draw somewhere. In general, the geometry of the problem might suggest some simple shape -- often a circle or rectangle -- that will make things work out.
 
So if I use a rectangular wire around the plate, do I only include the top and bottom portions of the length, since these are the only sections where the B is perpendicular to the path?

Also how do I calculate the current, is it just equal to σ?
 
dww52 said:
So if I use a rectangular wire around the plate, do I only include the top and bottom portions of the length, since these are the only sections where the B is perpendicular to the path?
Yes, use a rectangular path. But have a look again at Ampere's Law, you are looking for sections where B is parallel to the path:
dww52 said:
Ampere's Law:
∫B|| ds = μ0*I
"B||" means the component of B that is parallel to the the length element ds.

Also how do I calculate the current, is it just equal to σ?
σ is the current in 1 meter of plate. So if the rectangle encloses 1 meter of the plate, yes. If the rectangle encloses some other length, then no.

Have you drawn the rectangular loop yet? The thin plate should appear as a line in the figure, with the current directed either out of or into the page.
 

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