Magnetic Field Outside Infinite Solenoid

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The discussion centers on the magnetic field outside an infinite solenoid, with the author questioning the claim that this field is zero. It is clarified that the magnetic field outside a solenoid is not zero due to the absence of ends in an infinite solenoid, which prevents field lines from emerging. The intuitive reasoning provided suggests that as the solenoid is infinitely long, any external field lines would be infinitely far from the solenoid, leading to a negligible effect. The concept of a pseudo-ellipse shaped loop is introduced to explain the behavior of the magnetic field in relation to the solenoid's infinite length. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes that there is indeed a magnetic field outside an infinite solenoid, contrary to the initial claim.
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Homework Statement



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The author claims the field outside this infinitely long solenoid with N' turns and a current i(t) flowing through it is 0, but he doesn't explain why.

Why is it 0? Is there an intuitive reasoning behind it?

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It's NOT zero.

[PLAIN]http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3547/solenoidlarge.jpg

Because there is a magnetic field outside of a solenoid, a solenoid made from a solenoid actually has a magnetic field!

For all practical purposes for a linear solenoid, this is a very good approximation:

[PLAIN]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4861/solenoid.jpg

Infinite solenoids have no ends, so the circular loops you see coming out of the ends of the solenoid aren't there in the simplification.

The intuitive reasoning behind this is that when you deform the pseudo-ellipse shaped loop of the exterior solenoid field, a single loop will approach hemispheres. Not only will the arc of the hemisphere be infinitely far away from any point in along the solenoid, since the solenoid is infinitely long, there will never be lines emerging from the ends of the solenoid.
 
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