Magnetic field produced by a current

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The discussion focuses on determining the magnetic field at the center of a conducting wire loop with a current flowing clockwise, while also considering a straight wire with current flowing from left to right. Participants emphasize the importance of using the Biot-Savart Law to compute the magnetic field and the need to relate differential length elements (dl) to the distance from the center and the angle. The right-hand rule is mentioned as a useful tool for visualizing the direction of the magnetic fields produced by both the loop and the straight wire. Additionally, there is a suggestion to consult textbooks for established solutions regarding the magnetic fields from a long straight wire and a single wire loop. Understanding these relationships is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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I'm translating the problem from portuguese to english, so I'm sorry if there are errors.

Homework Statement


Determine the magnetic field on the center of the circumference produced by the current in the conducting wire (the circumference is made of conducting wire too). The current goes from left to right, and on the circumference it's clockwise.

Homework Equations



Biot-Savart Law: B = \frac{\mu_0}{4 \pi} \ \int \frac{ I \ \vec{dl}\times \hat{r}}{r^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I can't relate dl with r (the distance from dl to the center) nor the angle, which I must do to compute the integral.
 

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Tosh5457 said:
I'm translating the problem from portuguese to english, so I'm sorry if there are errors.

Homework Statement


Determine the magnetic field on the center of the circumference produced by the current in the conducting wire (the circumference is made of conducting wire too). The current goes from left to right, and on the circumference it's clockwise.

Homework Equations



Biot-Savart Law: B = \frac{\mu_0}{4 \pi} \ \int \frac{ I \ \vec{dl}\times \hat{r}}{r^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I can't relate dl with r (the distance from dl to the center) nor the angle, which I must do to compute the integral.

The trick to this question is to see that the B field in the center of that loop is the sum of the B-field from the loop itself, plus the B-field from the long straight wire...
 
berkeman said:
The trick to this question is to see that the B field in the center of that loop is the sum of the B-field from the loop itself, plus the B-field from the long straight wire...

yep the right hand rule can also gives a good indication as well

on the straight wire the current goes right so curling your fingers indicates the field points down. On The loop the current goes clockwise tot he magnetic field is again down.

For the long straight wire you must relate the center of the ring to a segment dl on the long straight wire that is a distance r1 away. which you can relate to theta by integrated from pi/2 to -pi/2

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Liquidxlax said:
yep the right hand rule can also gives a good indication as well

on the straight wire the current goes right so curling your fingers indicates the field points down. On The loop the current goes clockwise tot he magnetic field is again down.

For the long straight wire you must relate the center of the ring to a segment dl on the long straight wire that is a distance r1 away. which you can relate to theta by integrated from pi/2 to -pi/2

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So, dl = rdθ? And how do relate I r with θ?
 
Tosh5457 said:
So, dl = rdθ? And how do relate I r with θ?

Your book should have a solution for the B-field from a long straight wire. And a separate solution for the B-field at the center of a single loop of wire. Do you see how they set up the integrals for each of those...?
 
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