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The discussion revolves around solving vector-related homework problems involving vectors a and b in R^3. The first task is to find the magnitude of the vector 3a - 3b, which simplifies to 3 times the magnitude of a - b, yielding a final result of 3√101. The second part involves determining the unit vector in the direction of 3a - 3b, which was successfully calculated as (1/√101, 10/√101, 0). Lastly, the problem of finding a vector of length 8 in the direction of a leads to the conclusion that the vector can be expressed as a scalar multiple of a, specifically (8/√66, 56/√66, -32/√66). The discussion clarifies the notation used for vector components and confirms the correctness of the calculations.
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Homework Statement


a and b are vectors in R^3 s.t. a=(1,7,-4) and b= -3j-4k

1. Find ||3a-3b|| (magnitude of 3a-3b)
2. Find unit vector u in direction of 3a-3b, write answer in form (u1,u2,u3)
3. Find vector of length 8 in direction of a (write answer in form "-")


Homework Equations


||3a-3b|| = 3||a-b|| = 3*sqrt((a1-b1)^2 +...(a3-b3)^2)
3 is positve scalar and can be factored out I believe

U = X/ ||X|| , X ≠ 0


Length = sqrt(x^2 + y^2) (might be wrong, I am confused on finding length in same dir)



The Attempt at a Solution



Starting solving 1.
3||a-b|| = 3 sqrt((1+3j+4k)^2 + (7+3j+4k)^2 + (-4+3j+4k)^2)
I don't know what j and k represent

2. I would need to know ||3a-3b|| first right?
then do X/||X||?

3. a= (1,7,-4) and L=8
L is in same direction of a so
8 = sqrt((u1-1)^2 + (u2-7)^2 + (u3 +4)^2) -> or maybe the a vals and u's are switched i don't know
 
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concon said:
3||a-b|| = 3 sqrt((1+3j+4k)^2 + (7+3j+4k)^2 + (-4+3j+4k)^2)

Not sure where this comes from.

The formula is that if we are given ##a = (a_1,a_2,a_3)## and ##b = (b_1, b_2, b_3)##, then

\|a-b\|= \sqrt{(a_1 - b_1)^2 + (a_2 - b_2)^2 + (a_3 - b_3)^2}

Here you are given ##a= (1,7,-4)## and ##b=(0,-3,-4)##.
 
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micromass said:
Not sure where this comes from.

The formula is that if we are given ##a = (a_1,a_2,a_3)## and ##b = (b_1, b_2, b_3)##, then

\|a-b\|= \sqrt{(a_1 - b_1)^2 + (a_2 - b_2)^2 + (a_3 - b_3)^2}

Here you are given ##a= (1,7,-4)## and ##b=(0,-3,-4)##.
Wow wait a minute, how do you know the values for b as (0,-3, -4)?
What do j and k represent?

Also, do you have any input regarding the other two questions I posted w/in this post?
 
concon said:
Wow wait a minute, how do you know the values for b as (0,-3, -4)?
What do j and k represent?

The notation ##-3j -4k## is just another notation for ##(0,-3,-4)##.

The vector ##i## actually equals ##(1,0,0)##. The vector ##j=(0,1,0)## and ##k=(0,0,1)##. So

-3-4k = -3(0,1,0) -4 (0,0,1) = (0,-3,0) + (0,0,-4) = (0,-3,-4)

Also, do you have any input regarding the other two questions I posted w/in this post?

Sure, but let's do (a) first.
 
micromass said:
The notation ##-3j -4k## is just another notation for ##(0,-3,-4)##.

The vector ##i## actually equals ##(1,0,0)##. The vector ##j=(0,1,0)## and ##k=(0,0,1)##. So

-3-4k = -3(0,1,0) -4 (0,0,1) = (0,-3,0) + (0,0,-4) = (0,-3,-4)



Sure, but let's do (a) first.
Okay gotcha, thanks! My prof did not cover that this lecture so I was unclear.

Okay so with that in mind ||a-b|| = sqrt(101) right?
and since 3 is a postive number it can be factored out thus,

3*sqrt(101) = ||3a-3b|| right?
 
concon said:
Okay gotcha, thanks! My prof did not cover that this lecture so I was unclear.

Okay so with that in mind ||a-b|| = sqrt(101) right?
and since 3 is a postive number it can be factored out thus,

3*sqrt(101) = ||3a-3b|| right?

Yes, that's correct.

So, can you use this to solve (b) now?
 
micromass said:
Yes, that's correct.

So, can you use this to solve (b) now?
I think so but is my equation correct? Which values am I using
 
micromass said:
Yes, that's correct.

So, can you use this to solve (b) now?
actually scratch that I got the answer. I got:
U = (1/sqrt 101, 10/sqrt 101, 0)

How do I do the last part about length?
 
Given your vector ##a##, then if ##\lambda>0## is a real number, then ##\lambda a## lies in the same direction of ##a##. So your answer will be ##\lambda a##. Your only job is to figure out what ##\lambda## is exactly.

You want ##\|\lambda a\| = 8##. Can you figure out what ##\lambda## is now?
 
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yep got the answer as (8/sqrt 66 , 56/sqrt 66 , -32/sqrt 66)
 
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Right!
 

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