Optical Making a vein viewer with LED lights

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This discussion focuses on optimizing a vein viewer using LED lights, emphasizing critical factors such as the angle of the lights, skin color, and swollen areas that affect light penetration. The use of near-infrared wavelength LEDs is highlighted as essential for illuminating veins, which absorb this spectrum more than surrounding tissue. The arrangement of LEDs is debated, with suggestions to follow the circular layout from the referenced guide while avoiding a closed-top rectangle design. Users are encouraged to test their setup with a cellphone camera to observe infrared visibility.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of near-infrared wavelength LEDs
  • Knowledge of light penetration factors through skin
  • Familiarity with LED arrangement techniques
  • Basic skills in DIY electronics and project assembly
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  • Research the effects of LED angle on light penetration
  • Explore different skin types and their impact on vein visibility
  • Learn about the differences between parallel and non-divergent light beams
  • Investigate the use of cellphone cameras for infrared light detection
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This discussion is beneficial for DIY enthusiasts, medical device developers, and anyone interested in creating or optimizing vein viewers using LED technology.

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I'm trying to optimize my vein viewer with LED lights but I'm not sure which factors affect the penetration of the light through the skin. (I'm following this guide https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-an-affordable-Vein-Finder-for-use-d/)
I can say those factors are the angle of the lights, the colour of the skin, swollen areas. Is there anything else I should consider too? And should I use Parallel light beam instead of non-divergence light beam?
The last question I want to ask is about the arrangement of the LED lights. Is it best to arrange them as a circle or a rectangular?
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Hieu said:
I'm trying to optimize my vein viewer with LED lights but I'm not sure which factors affect the penetration of the light through the skin. (I'm following this guide https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-an-affordable-Vein-Finder-for-use-d/)
I can say those factors are the angle of the lights, the colour of the skin, swollen areas. Is there anything else I should consider too? And should I use Parallel light beam instead of non-divergence light beam?
From the link, it sounds like the choice of the LEDs is the most important thing:
This tool works by using near-infrared wavelength LEDs to illuminate the flesh at the site. The veins will appear as dark bands because they are more absorbent of this spectrum of light than the surrounding tissue.
Are you using the exact LEDs that he specifies?
Hieu said:
The last question I want to ask is about the arrangement of the LED lights. Is it best to arrange them as a circle or a rectangular?
In the theme of the project, probably you want to arrange them as he did in his project. However, I wouldn't close off the top of the rectangle with plastic like he did. QUIZ QUESTION -- Why? :biggrin:

BTW, don't expect too much out of this project. The vein viewers that are commercially available use IR light and translate that into visible light that you can see, like this product:

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Now that it’s been a few days, how is your project going
 
Try looking at the illuminated area with your cellphone camera. They see farther into IR spectrum than our human eyes do.
 
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