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The discussion addresses the commutation of the charge current density operator \( s^\mu = - ec \bar{\psi}\gamma^\mu\psi \) for the Dirac Lagrangian at spacelike separated points, specifically showing that \( [s^\mu(x), s^\nu(y)] = 0 \) when \( (x-y)^2 < 0 \). The participants utilize microcausality, confirming that \( \{ \psi(x), \bar{\psi}(y) \} = 0 \). The evaluation of the commutator leads to the conclusion that the current operators commute, with the final expression confirming \( [j^{\mu}, j^{\nu}] = 0 \) where \( j^{\mu} = \overline{\psi}(x)\gamma^{\mu}\psi(x) \).

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[SOLVED] Mandl and Shaw 4.3

The question is to show that the charge current density operator s^\mu = - ec \bar{\psi}\gamma^\mu\psi for the Dirac Lagrangian commutes at spacelike separated points. Ie

[s^\mu(x),s^\nu(y)] = 0 for (x-y)^2 &lt; 0.

By microcauality we have \{ \psi(x), \bar{\psi}(y) \} = 0.

The commutator is

e^2c^2( \bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^\mu\psi (x) \bar{\psi}(y)\gamma^\nu\psi(y)-\bar{\psi}(y)\gamma^\nu\psi(y) \bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^\mu\psi (x) )

I tried to evaluate this in index notation. The first term is

\left(\bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^\mu\psi (x) \bar{\psi}(y)\gamma^\nu\psi(y)\right)_{\alpha\beta} = \left(\bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^\mu\psi (x) \right)_{\alpha\epsilon}\left( \bar{\psi}(y)\gamma^\nu\psi(y)\right)_{\epsilon\beta} = \bar{\psi}_\alpha (x) (\gamma^\mu)_{\epsilon\gamma} \psi_\gamma (x) \bar{\psi}_\epsilon (y)(\gamma^\nu)_{\beta\delta}\psi_\delta(y)

=\bar{\psi}_\alpha(x) \psi_\gamma (x) \bar{\psi}_\epsilon(y)\psi_\delta (y)(\gamma^\mu)_{\epsilon\gamma} (\gamma^\nu)_{\beta\delta}.

Minus the second term is

\left(\bar{\psi}(y)\gamma^\nu\psi (y) \bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^\mu\psi(x)\right)_{\alpha\beta}.

If I simply expand this as \left(\bar{\psi}(y)\gamma^\nu\psi (y)\right)_{\alpha\epsilon}\left( \bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^\mu\psi(x)\right)_{\epsilon\beta} I get a different answer to the first term. What I would like to do is to equate this to

\left(\bar{\psi}(y)\gamma^\nu\psi (y)\right)_{\epsilon\beta}\left( \bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^\mu\psi(x)\right)_{\alpha\epsilon} and then use the anti-commutation relations to show this is the same as the first term.

If A and B are Hermitian and so is AB then (AB)_{\alpha\beta} = (AB)^\ast_{\beta\alpha} = a_{\beta\epsilon}^\ast b_{\epsilon\alpha}^\ast = a_{\epsilon\beta}b_{\alpha\epsilon}. But in my case the product of the two matrices is not Hermitian so I can't do that.
 
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Turned out to be something totally stupid. I was interpreting the current as quadruple of matrices when it is in fact a quadruple of complex numbers.
 


Ok,

[j^{\mu}, j^{\nu}] =0

where j^{\mu} =\overline{\psi}(x)\gamma^{\mu}\psi (x)

Is this true?
 

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