Mapping Class Group of Contractible Spaces

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the mapping class group of contractible spaces, particularly focusing on self-homeomorphisms and their isotopy classes. Participants explore the implications of homotopy versus isotopy, and the conditions under which certain mappings can be considered equivalent.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the mapping class group of a contractible space is trivial, suggesting that every map is homotopically trivial.
  • Others argue that the definition of the mapping class group needs clarification, particularly regarding whether maps must fix the boundary.
  • A participant mentions that while orientation-reversing homeomorphisms of a 2-disk are homotopic to the identity, they are not isotopic, emphasizing the distinction between homotopy and isotopy.
  • There is a related question about whether a homeomorphism of ##\mathbb{R}^3## preserves isotopy classes of knots, with some suggesting that the mapping class group of ##\mathbb{R}^3## is limited to {Id, -Id}.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the mapping class group of ##\mathbb{R}^3##, noting that while there is one homotopy class of maps, isotopies may not be as straightforward.
  • Some participants discuss the application of Alexander's trick and the conditions under which homeomorphisms that agree on the boundary are isotopic.
  • Concerns are raised about the generality of contractible spaces, questioning the applicability of results derived from specific cases like ##D^n##.
  • There is a discussion about whether isotopies between maps on ##D^n## restrict to those between respective interiors, with a participant expressing skepticism about extending homeomorphisms from the interior to the closed disk.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the properties of the mapping class group of contractible spaces, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining regarding the implications of homotopy versus isotopy.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of mapping class groups and isotopy, as well as the generality of contractible spaces which may affect the applicability of certain arguments.

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Hi all,

Isn't the mapping class group of a contractible space trivial (or, if we consider isotopy, {+/-Id})?

Since every map from a contractible space is (homotopically)trivial.
 
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I think you have to specify what you mean by the mapping class group. Not that I don't know what it is, do the maps have to fix the boundary?

Generally, homotopic might not imply isotopic, although that's generally true for homeomorphisms of surfaces from what I remember (possibly with a couple exceptions?).
 
Orientation-reversing homeomorphism of a 2-disk to itself is homotopic to the identity, but not isotopic. An isotopy has to be a homeomorphism at every point in time, so it should map boundary to boundary and preserve the degree of the map on the boundary. But, as you say, everything is homotopic because it's contractible.
 
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This is a related question: let K be a knot in ## \mathbb R^3## , and let h: be a homeo (a relative of yours ;) ) of ## \mathbb R^3## to itself . Is h(K) ~K (as knots, i.e., they are isotopic)? I say yes (up to orientation), since MCG(## \mathbb R^3##)= {Id, -Id}, so that h(K)~Id or h(K)~ -Id(K). Do you agree?
 
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Seems like that should be true, but how do you know that's the mapping class group of R^3?

There's only one homotopy class of maps, but I'm not 100% sure about isotopies.

In any case, Gordon-Lueke does imply that the knots are isotopic.
 
But any two isotopies are homotopies, so we only need to consider {+/- Id}. And isotopies preserve orientation, so we're done.
 
But any two isotopies are homotopies, so we only need to consider {+/- Id}. And isotopies preserve orientation, so we're done.

Not following. Isotopies are homotopies, but if you want to establish what the isotopy classes are, you can't use homotopies. Sure, anything is homotopic to the those, but we want isotopic.
 
Sorry, I skipped a few steps :we use Alexander's trick, since ##\mathbb R^n,D^n## are isomorphic. Then, every two homeos. that agree on the boundary (a condition on elements of the MCG) are isotopic .
 
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Sorry, I skipped a few steps :we use Alexander's trick, since Rn,Dn are isomorphic. Then, every two homeos. that agree on the boundary (a condition on elements of the MCG) are isotopic.

Still not following. D^n usually includes the boundary, but R^n has no boundary. For D^n, I agree now that the mapping class group is trivial--incidentally, I just remembered, the mapping class group is usually defined to be orientation-preserving homeos, if there's an orientation.

A contractible space is a pretty general thing, though. No orientation, no -Id, no Alexander's trick. So, isotopy classes of self-homeomorphisms aren't so clear in general.
 
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But the doesn't the isotopy between maps on D^n restrict to one between the respective interiors ? Specially since the boundary is sent to the boundary in each embedding in the path? Related :any two contractible subspaces of the same space are homotopic (an equiv. rel. ). Are they also isotopic?
 
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But the doesn't the isotopy between maps on D^n restrict to one between the respective interiors ? Specially since the boundary is sent to the boundary in each embedding in the path?

The problem is that you are starting with a map on the interior, not on the whole D^n. You'd have to be able to extend it. I can't think of a counter-example off the top of my head, but it doesn't seem like you should be able to extend an arbitrary homeo of the open disk to the closed disk.

Related :any two contractible subspaces of the same space are homotopic (an equiv. rel. ). Are they also isotopic?

I don't have a very good feel for isotopy equivalence, but I don't think so.
 

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