Mass/Energy of a collapsing gas shell (MTW 21.27)

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Derive equation 21.176e for a collapsing gas shell
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Hi Everyone.

Can anyone give me some hints which will point out how to solve this problem, particularly using 'the formalism of Ex 21.25'.

I've kicked this around for a couple of weeks now and I haven't been able to come up with anything.

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Hi to any reader passing this way.

If you too are stuck on this problem, I can now offer a few thoughts on how to get to the solution after being given some very helpful guidance by TSny.

1. There are three metrics to be used - The metric outside the shell (Schwartzschild), the metric inside the shell (flat space-time) and the metric on the shell itself (which isn't given but is
##ds^2 = -d\tau^2 + R^2(\tau)(d\theta^2 + sin^2\theta d\phi^2##)

2. As the shell evolves with time (##\tau##), it creates a 'world tube', the normal to which is space-like. The consequence of this is that in ADM co-ordinate speak, the three co-ordinates of the shell are ## \tau, \theta and \phi## which correspond to i,j, and k.

(It took a good bit of time and some valuable help from TSny to get comfortable with the idea that n doesn't have to be time-like).

3. The quick way is to locate a copy of Problem Book in Relativity and Gravitation by Lightman, Press, Price and Teukolsky and turn to page 586.

So thanks to TSnyTerryW
 
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