Mastering the Control of a Pendulum: Labview Inputs and IR Sensor Use

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The discussion revolves around the control of an inverted pendulum system using Labview, specifically focusing on the required inputs for the system and the appropriate sensors to measure the pendulum's angle (theta) and the cart's position. The context includes a homework project involving practical implementation and sensor selection.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether theta is the only required input for the inverted pendulum system in Labview, suggesting that the position of the cart may also be necessary.
  • Another participant argues that knowing theta should suffice to calculate the relative position of the cart.
  • There is a query regarding the use of a Sharp IR Sensor for measuring theta, with one participant expressing uncertainty about its application in this context.
  • A suggestion is made to use a potentiometer (component 7) instead of the IR sensor for measuring the angle, although there is confusion about how a potentiometer, described as an adjustable resistor, can detect angle changes.
  • Clarification is provided that the potentiometer can be physically connected to the pendulum, allowing its movement to correlate with changes in resistance, which can then be interpreted as angle changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of the cart's position as an input and the appropriateness of the IR sensor versus the potentiometer for measuring theta. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to sensor selection and input requirements.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the specific functionalities of the sensors mentioned and the assumptions regarding their applications in measuring angle and position.

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Homework Statement


Hi, I have a project involving an inverted pendulum, as attached.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know about some things:

First, is theta the only required input from the inverted pendulum system to Labview? Don't I also need the position of the cart that the pendulum will be mounted on?

Secondly, from the component list, "Component 9 - a "Sharp IR Sensor plug and wire assembly" - Is this the sensor for theta?
If the IR sensor is something like youtube.com/watch?v=PnJnbDfLr3M
can it be used to measure theta?
 

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minoroctave said:
First, is theta the only required input from the inverted pendulum system to Labview? Don't I also need the position of the cart that the pendulum will be mounted on?
Theta will let you calculate the relative position. That should be enough.

Secondly, from the component list, "Component 9 - a "Sharp IR Sensor plug and wire assembly" - Is this the sensor for theta?
I would use the potentiometer (component 7). I don't know how an IR sensor would be used.
 
FactChecker said:
I would use the potentiometer (component 7). I don't know how an IR sensor would be used.

but isn't a potentiometer an adjustable resistor? how is it used to detect the angle?
 
Physically connect it to the pendulum so that the control is moved when the pendulum moves. Then the pendulum position is related to resistance.
 
minoroctave said:
but isn't a potentiometer an adjustable resistor? how is it used to detect the angle?

Typically you adjust a potentiometer by rotating a knob. Rotating = changing angle.
 

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