Mastering the Law of Sines: Troubleshooting Trig Problems

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The discussion revolves around the application of the law of sines in trigonometry, specifically addressing a problem involving angle calculation. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the correct angle determination using the law of sines, indicating a lack of prior knowledge on the topic.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the law of sines but encounters issues with the angle calculation, leading to questions about the validity of the arcsine function in this context. Some participants discuss the limitations of the arcsine function and the possibility of obtaining multiple valid angles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of the arcsine function and its implications for angle determination. There is acknowledgment of the need for logical reasoning in conjunction with mathematical application, and some participants have shared their experiences in resolving similar issues.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of angle determination in trigonometric problems, particularly when dealing with obtuse angles. The original poster's initial misunderstanding of the law of sines and arcsine is a focal point of the discussion.

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So, I am brushing up on my trig...and now I feel a bit slow.
I am attempting to use the law of sines for the attached problem and keep getting the wrong angle. For some reason I never learned the law of sines/cosines before today...

Homework Equations


A/Sin(a) = B/Sin(b) = C/Sin(c)

The Attempt at a Solution


4/sin(27)=5/sin(theta) then...
arcsin(5*sin(27)/4) = theta = 34.6

I know this is the angle beside it, but I don't know what I am doing wrong. Any help would be great!
 

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The downfall of using the law of sines is that you can get the wrong answer when the angle is obtuse as you can see from the picture. Do you know how you can fix the "answer" of 34.58°?
 
The problem is that the arcsine doesn't give the value you want.

Basically, what arcsine does is it takes a value x in [-1,1] and it gives you an angle \theta\in [-90^\circ, 90^\circ] such that \sin(\theta)=x.

But this \theta isn't the only angle such that \sin(\theta)=x! Indeed \pi-\theta is also such an angle. Unfortunately, the arcsine can only give you one answer instead of all the angles that satisfy (otherwise, your calculator would have to give you infinitely many values) and it chooses to ignore \pi-\theta.

The user should know that if he gets \theta as an answer, that \pi-\theta is also a good answer to the question and that \theta might be the wrong answer. This is indeed the case here.
 
Ahhh, ok, so apparently I need to use some logic too...haha. Thank you so much for the help. I was able to solve it by solving for the right triangle and then solving for the attached triangle, but this method tripped me up, unfortunately. Thank you all again for the explanation.
 

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