Light Intoxication for Enhanced Creativity in Math?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of light intoxication on creativity and problem-solving, particularly in academic contexts. Participants share anecdotes about attempting math or physics while under the influence of alcohol, noting mixed results. Some claim that mild intoxication can enhance creativity and focus, while others caution against the negative impacts on accuracy and comprehension. Experiences include humorous mishaps, such as dropping a slide rule in a toilet, and reflections on how alcohol can lead to overconfidence and mistakes in calculations. There are also mentions of alternative substances like cannabis and Ritalin, with varying opinions on their effects on cognitive performance. Overall, the conversation highlights a blend of humor and caution regarding the relationship between intoxication and academic work.
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Anyone tried it? How did you do?

And this thread is only a half joke: Light intoxication increases creativity and makes the consumer relaxed. It might work? Maybe?
 
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You're describing my entire undergraduate career.

On a serious note, only time I recall doing so is after having a dinner party at my house. I was reviewing my planner and noticed that I overlooked a homework problem. That was the hardest integral ever.
 
I once had a friend from another university visit and we got kinda toasted. I had forgotten about a physics lab. Before starting the experiment, I went to the restroom for some beer relief and dropped my slide-rule in the toilet.
 
Alcohol and math don't mix. Don't drink and derive.
 
I've done it. The results are always...interesting.
 
Ben Niehoff said:
I've done it. The results are always...interesting.
##F = mv## says the drunk man
 
Nikitin said:
Anyone tried it? How did you do?

And this thread is only a half joke: Light intoxication increases creativity and makes the consumer relaxed. It might work? Maybe?

I was a bit toasted the other day while doing some physics related math stuff.
The solution I ended up with had me agreeing with Russ Waters.

I may have to quit drinking.
 
dlgoff said:
I once had a friend from another university visit and we got kinda toasted. I had forgotten about a physics lab. Before starting the experiment, I went to the restroom for some beer relief and dropped my slide-rule in the toilet.

Did it work after the dunking?

Careful your age is showing!
 
I don't drink anymore, but when I was in high school (and too young to drink, don't do this kids) I used to do algebra drunk, and it was always easier for me. But I think it's because of my ADD, and it sort of quieted something down a bit and helped me concentrate.

Now I do yoga and meditation and other wholesome crap like that.

-Dave K
 
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Bad ar good it will make you dependent and you may feel unable to solve hard problems without drinking.

I don't drink though so this statement lacks of experimental (personal experience) comprovation.
 
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this is disappointing. How about drugs? :-P I heard at medicine school they all take ritalin or something before doing major studying sessions.
 
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One beer absolutely destroyed my accuracy. It gave false confidence and I blew right past silly algebra mistakes. Next day i'd look at it and get really PO'd about the time wasted.



Careful your age is showing!
Yes, some of us remember that Paul McCArtney was in a group before 'Wings'.
 
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dlgoff said:
I once had a friend from another university visit and we got kinda toasted. I had forgotten about a physics lab. Before starting the experiment, I went to the restroom for some beer relief and dropped my slide-rule in the toilet.

... and thus invented floating point arithmetic.

Integral said:
Careful your age is showing!

jim hardy said:
Yes, some of us remember that Paul McCArtney was in a group before 'Wings'.

The Quarrymen?
 
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dlgoff said:
I once had a friend from another university visit and we got kinda toasted. I had forgotten about a physics lab. Before starting the experiment, I went to the restroom for some beer relief and dropped my slide-rule in the toilet.

Geez..my grandpa had one of those. He was born in..1896.
 
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I can't even add two numbers together when I'm drunk. However, sometimes the songs I write are better than the ones I write sober. I think alcohol specifically targets the left brain for shutdown, while perhaps mildy "liberating" the right brain, at least in small doses.:-p
 
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Funny, when I'm drunk and bored at a party I start going over math stuff I struggle with. Works like a charm for me.

I seriously need to get half-drunk and do math, some day after the exam period.
 
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Borek said:
Alcohol and math don't mix. Don't drink and derive.

:biggrin:
 
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Integral said:
Did it work after the dunking?

Careful your age is showing!

I still have it/them.



It, the small one, worked fine but operators input was in question. Physics I Lab, trajectory, using springs with large constants to launch steel ball bearing projectiles (~1 inch diam.) off the lab bench. I think I hit the target once. Or was that my lab partner? :confused:

George Jones said:
... and thus invented floating point arithmetic.

Yep. That why I bought the large one. It was like going from 8 bit to 32 bit arithmetic. :!)
 
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arildno said:
Geez..my grandpa had one of those. He was born in..1896.

Ever hear the saying, "I'm your daddy"?
 
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The large one looks a lot like the German one I have after my granddad (He studied engineering in post WWI Germany)
 
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I've never done this, but I presume it is similar to doing math while under sleep deprivation. This I have done and it is not fun, I get snagged on things that would otherwise come quickly to me by double and triple checking, and even mental arithmetic feels pretty hard.

I had a lecturer who encouraged students to go out more and have other distractions outside of academics. He once said we should get home drunk and sit down to do that last hard homework problem we weren't able to figure out. If we were drunk enough, we might be able to come up with the solution, he claimed.
 
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The first time my professor walked in and started talking canonical coordinates, for a moment I thought that he meant to say conical coordinates, but had been drinking.
 
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Wow, dlg - are those really K&E Decilons?

The pocket one is quite rare.

You 'da man!
 
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jim hardy said:
Wow, dlg - are those really K&E Decilons?

The 5 inch one is a Keuffel and Esser Model 4181-1 © 1947.

But the 10 inch one is a Keuffel and Esser Model Decilon 68 1100 © 1947, 1961.

The pocket one is quite rare.

You 'da man!

I would sell it to you if it weren't for this. :devil:

Advertising for personal gain of any kind is not permitted in any forum.
 
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dlgoff said:
I would sell it to you if it weren't for this. :devil:

Advertising for personal gain of any kind is not permitted in any forum.

You could "donate" it to me:biggrin:

Btw, does it have hyperbolic capabilities? Or did those come out later? I mean not to look a gift horse in the mouth or anything...
 
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Doing math while drinking is always short-lived.You can do good math within your 1st and 2nd beer , you can keep up the pace at your 3rd but your skills are severely reduced once you hit your 4th or 5th beer.Unless you are very tolerant to alcohol.
 
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DiracPool said:
You could "donate" it to me:biggrin:

Btw, does it have hyperbolic capabilities? Or did those come out later? I mean not to look a gift horse in the mouth or anything...
No Sh or Th scales but I'm not donating. However I'll give you this link to Slide Rules with Hyperbolic Function Scales which has a nice interactive Java script graphically showing the six hyperbolic functions. :biggrin:
 
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dlgoff said:
The 5 inch one is a Keuffel and Esser Model 4181-1 © 1947.

But the 10 inch one is a Keuffel and Esser Model Decilon 68 1100 © 1947, 1961.

I do have one of each in my collection, and a 20" 4081. Still looking for a 5" Decilon..

I keep a cheap Sterling in the car for gas mileage. It never needs batteries.

Son works as mechanical engineer at a military base so for Christmas I gave him a cubicle curio - a 10" Pickett in a shadow box,,
with placard "Break Glass in case of EMP Attack".

old jim
 
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jim hardy said:
Son works as mechanical engineer at a military base so for Christmas I gave him a cubicle curio - a 10" Pickett in a shadow box,,
with placard "Break Glass in case of EMP Attack".

old jim

Outstanding. Now you got me thinking of a shadow box. :approve:
 
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dlgoff said:
Outstanding.

Yep. I love it too.
 
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it would be somewhat funny at that moment because you mind could not process the questions.
 
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dlgoff said:
I still have it/them.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9627/14017584.jpg

It, the small one, worked fine but operators input was in question. Physics I Lab, trajectory, using springs with large constants to launch steel ball bearing projectiles (~1 inch diam.) off the lab bench. I think I hit the target once. Or was that my lab partner? :confused:



Yep. That why I bought the large one. It was like going from 8 bit to 32 bit arithmetic. :!)

The old ways are the best ways:

http://www.webanswers.com/post-images/5/5F/A3613644-6190-48A6-85B01FB71EA3D4DA.gif
 
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I have 4 or 5 slide rules (including one that she inherited from her father) and two abaci (old school plural of abacus). I'm not sure, but I think that one of the ones I have I used in my physics classes, back well before the general availability of pocket calculators along about the mid-70s.

As a side note, the abacus is a sort of advanced version of a gizmo the ancients used to use, a piece of wood that had grooves scooped out for the 1's, 10's, etc. columns. They used small stones as counters, similar to the beads on an abacus. In Latin, a small stone was a calculus.

So now you know why it is that what a dentist removes from your teeth has the same name as the mathematical study of things that change in time.
 
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Borek said:
Alcohol and math don't mix. Don't drink and derive.

Since we're reviving a dead topic anyway, let me just say that I laughed out loud at that one.
 
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jim hardy said:
I do have one of each in my collection, and a 20" 4081. Still looking for a 5" Decilon..

20 inch! Pfft

I have an Otis King with a 10 foot scale!

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You can make the scales a lot longer if you wrap them around a cylinder. Close it up and it fits in your pocket.

I think some actress or another once said, "Is that an Otis King slide rule in your pocket or you happy to see me?"
 
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Bahhhhhh... Math, Shmmmmmmm...ath.

Try makin' a mooofee, of this qualiddy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrtQ9AdoM0​
 
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Being drunk while doing math or running a spaceship may not work, but it worked for the Kingsmen in 1963 when they recorded this hit song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZJ4ESU52U
 
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SW VandeCarr said:
Being drunk while doing math or running a spaceship may not work, but it worked for the Kingsmen in 1963 when they recorded this hit song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZJ4ESU52U

Had you posted this an hour ago, I'd have posted a live picture of the venue where this was recorded.

But, it's Friday, and I'm drunk, and I'm sure all the stories of "They recorded that song up there!", are make believe.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/louie_louie_finds_another_plac.html

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[edit] hmmmm... It's true.
I always find it weird that people from across the country will mention something that is only a block away from where I'm sitting.
 
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OmCheeto said:
Bahhhhhh... Math, Shmmmmmmm...ath.

Try makin' a mooofee, of this qualiddy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPrtQ9AdoM0​

I believe you should be drunk while watching this vid to appreciate it.

Luckily for me, I am not.
 
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I find that while many drugs inhibit computational abilities, they can be useful for forcing someone to look at a problem in different ways. There has to be a balance where they have some effect, but don't make the user a complete idiot at the same time.
 
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One could try hemp too. I had a math friend who said cannabis increased his memory ?
 
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jk22 said:
One could try hemp too. I had a math friend who said cannabis increased his memory ?

In all likelihood this is false, though you're sure to find exceptions. The short term and long term negative effects of cannabis on the memory have been well researched.
 
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i heard once, but maybe this is more for physicists, that having sex makes you in better harmony with nature (hence a good way to discover laws of nature :-) ?! Moore seems to mean that a woman 'helped' Schrodinger to discover the wave equation, as a mistress maybe the waves a couple make during love in a super position) however i couldn't find out if they were drunk on this ski holiday.
 
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I am converting my salaries into units of beer coupled with petrol bills + taxi cost to get through one night.
 
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lendav_rott said:
I am converting my salaries into units of beer coupled with petrol bills + taxi cost to get through one night.
:biggrin: English people have beautiful pronunciation. I once was interviewed by a CEO from England, he asked me something I couldn't figure out, so I asked him to repeat and while he was explaining, I only paid attention to his lip movements (He is quite a guy but married) :biggrin: He is quite a "sanitary" person i.e driving a white car, wearing white trousers, drinking a white cup...
 
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Im not anymore allowed to drink alcohol by the medical staff because i take risperdal but doing math under that drug is not easy neither, moreover surrounded with people with mental disease...
 
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jim hardy said:
Yes, some of us remember that Paul McCArtney was in a group before 'Wings'.

Some of us are so young we don't even know who wings are lol.

inotyce said:
:biggrin: English people have beautiful pronunciation. I once was interviewed by a CEO from England, he asked me something I couldn't figure out, so I asked him to repeat and while he was explaining, I only paid attention to his lip movements (He is quite a guy but married) :biggrin: He is quite a "sanitary" person i.e driving a white car, wearing white trousers, drinking a white cup...

Sure you weren't being interviewed by God?:-p
 
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Superposed_Cat said:
Sure you weren't being interviewed by God?:-p

Does He speak English, then?
 
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if so he has no excuse for not answering our prayers :)
 
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