Math Class: Necessary or Redundant?

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The discussion centers around the value of attending math classes when students feel they can learn effectively from textbooks alone. Some participants express frustration with the redundancy of class lectures, particularly when they have already grasped the material through self-study. However, there is a consensus that attending class can provide benefits beyond just learning the material, such as networking opportunities with peers and professors, which can lead to scholarships and job recommendations. It's noted that professors often present material differently than textbooks, and their insights can be crucial for understanding complex concepts. Additionally, attending class helps maintain pace with the curriculum and ensures students are aware of important announcements regarding assignments and exams. While some argue for optional attendance based on individual learning styles, the overall sentiment acknowledges that the classroom experience can enhance learning and foster valuable connections.
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After reading the math book and solving the math problems, I understand the material. So why attend math class, where after I read the book, I find so boring and unnecessary? Is it because going to math class makes it more likely that you will read your book and do your homework? I feel like it's redundant to read the book and then hear the same stuff again in class.

Also, I have to learn from the book. I can't learn when someone tries to teach me. I guess I'm just used to it because throughout middle and high school, I had to depend on myself to learn math through the math books due to lazy and bad teachers.
 
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Sometimes it's not worth going to class. Generally though, as you progress, professors will begin to present material differently than what is shown in the textbook, or even different material all together.

And some professors are just good lecturers and are worth listening to.

And then it never hurts to hear/see the material again.
 


Congratulations annoyinggirl, never stop reading and indeed you could become proficient in higher math. However, I have always contended that math and science education depends on the oral tradition of teaching. In spite of having easy access textbooks, the vast majority of people cannot really learn the material on their own from a book. This is why billions are spent on tuition at universities. It might be that we lack the perseverance, or the fundamental capacity to learn by reading alone, or even that textbooks are written by experts who cannot fathom all the problems of the novice. But I really think it is deeper. Humans have always learned from our elders, in fact this is the reason humans have risen to dominate this planet. A million years of evolution have given us this powerful unique skill. Even though self taught "amateurs" have occasionally produced great ideas, it is very rare in math and science.
So keep reading and at least you will ace the tests in school. The more you learn, the more you realize how much you don't know. This is very important because without ignorance there can be no learning.
 


If you stop going to lectures, make sure you have a way to find out about announcements like changes in homework due dates, or test/exam dates, or changes in homework assignments.
 


I am the exact same way. We are the type of people that learn through reading and experience. I have found that going to lectures helps me stay at the same pace as the class. Quite frankly, I zone out a lot during lectures because I am either thinking about a concept or are sleep deprived-usually the latter.
 


Surely networking with your lecturers and peers is an important consideration. If it was me I'd attend whether I felt I knew the material or not. There may be something obscure covered that you would never have anticipated.
 


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Surely networking with your lecturers and peers is an important consideration. If it was me I'd attend whether I felt I knew the material or not. There may be something obscure covered that you would never have anticipated.

I agree that the networking can be a major benefit to going to classes when you feel you don't need to. I didn't feel the need to go to one of my college algebra courses a few terms back, but I did anyway and I ended up getting a scholarship due to the networking I was able to be a part of. Also, by being an active and present member of another class, I was able to get a good recommendation for a job I'm starting this September. So while a class may seem boring due to your ability to learn from the book, I'd suggest you still go -- you never know what positive things could happen.
 


It forces you to listen or at least not be online instead of do something else.
 


I skipped a lot of Calculus III classes back when I was a freshman in undergrad (probably about half lol). I felt like I knew the material already and didn't need to go. I was still getting A's on everything where most of my classmates struggled and still attended class. I could tell my professor was displeased with my attendance and was probably annoyed that I was doing so well without his teaching. It was the only class I had with him until my senior project course for programming. Of course, I went to those classes :)
 
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Hi annoyinggirl, you are me:) But as you go on, there is so much material to learn in a class that the instructor framing of the material becomes important- out of all that you could focus on, what does the instructor emphasize most(and eventually put on the test?) There is usually a reason, and it comes up in later coursework. Also, should you become stuck on one particular question, often the person who will help you is another student- this can't happen if you don't know anyone. Once I almost missed a problem and didn't even realize I wasn't on track to solve it-if I hadn't talked to a friend just before our test I wouldn't have known.
 
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sometimes they test on material that was covered in class but not in the book. it happened in my engineering class
 
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I agree that going to class is a waste of time for some students (myself and you included). I think class should be optional and people should be graded on just HW and tests. I do think that most people do much better with lectures.
 
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Play Nintendo and flirt with cute guys.
 

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