Mathematical Probability Question

In summary, the question is asking for the probability that there are exactly r people standing between two randomly chosen people in a circle of n people. This can be simplified by arbitrarily fixing one person, leading to the answer of 1/(n-1) for the probability.
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Legendre
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I spent quite a lot of time trying to figure out this question that I read in a book. Through trial and error, I got a rough idea of what the solution should be like but can't figure out how I would derive it mathematically. Can anyone give me some directions? :)

QUESTION:

n people stand in a circle, where n > 2. we pick two person, A and B, at random. what is the probability that there are exactly r people standing in between A and B, in the clockwise direction?
 
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Hi Legendre! :wink:

Can you think of a way of simplifying the question? :smile:
 
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Given a choice of A, how many B's will satisfy the condition?
 
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elibj123 said:
Given a choice of A, how many B's will satisfy the condition?

Yup! :biggrin:

(or, rather, what proportion of B's will satisfy the condition?)

So you can simplify the problem by arbitrarily fixing A, which makes the answer … ? :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Yup! :biggrin:

(or, rather, what proportion of B's will satisfy the condition?)

So you can simplify the problem by arbitrarily fixing A, which makes the answer … ? :smile:


Thanks for not outright giving the answer! I find that I learn much more if I were to come out with an answer using hints.

Now let's see...

Fix A. Counting in the clockwise direction, only 1 B satisfies "exactly r people are standing between A and B".

0 <= r <= (n-2). So there are (n-1) possible r.

So the probability is 1/(n-1).
 
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(just got up :zzz: …)
Legendre said:
So the probability is 1/(n-1).

:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:
 
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tiny-tim said:
(just got up :zzz: …)


:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:


haha thanks!
 

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