Maths book needed, for leading to cosmology

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The discussion centers around recommendations for mathematics books that can help a high school student transition from popular science literature to a deeper understanding of cosmology through mathematics. The focus is on learning calculus and precalculus, as well as finding resources that apply mathematical concepts to cosmology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Richard expresses a desire to learn the mathematics behind cosmology, specifically calculus, and seeks recommendations for books that start from the basics.
  • Some participants suggest various resources, including online materials and textbooks, to help Richard learn calculus and precalculus.
  • Bryan mentions specific resources such as "Elementary Calculus" and links to calculus-related websites, as well as recommending arXiv.org for cosmology papers.
  • A participant suggests "Gravity From the Ground Up" by Schutz as a suitable book that balances mathematical challenge with accessibility for beginners.
  • Richard shares positive feedback about the resources provided, indicating progress in his studies and expressing gratitude for the community's support.
  • Another participant emphasizes the effectiveness of "Gravity From the Ground Up," recommending it to others interested in the subject matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the usefulness of the recommended resources, particularly "Gravity From the Ground Up." However, there is no consensus on a singular path or method for learning, as different participants suggest various books and resources.

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Richard's current educational background limits his exposure to calculus, which may affect his learning curve. The discussion reflects a range of resources that may vary in difficulty and applicability to cosmology.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students interested in transitioning from popular science to more rigorous mathematical studies in cosmology, as well as educators seeking resources for teaching calculus and its applications in physics.

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Hi all,

First post here, so hello!

Anyway, I am a 16 year old high school student. I have always had an interest in astronomy which led to, over the last few years, an interest in cosmology. I have read a whole lot of 'popular scientist' type material on cosmology, Brief History of Time, ect ect. Anyway, I am at the point now where I am repeating myself.

Instead of someone telling me 'equations say this is the case', I want to be able to understand the maths behind it. Unfortunately, I am a 16 year old kid in New Zealand. The education system over here doesn't include any calculus in maths (oh why didn't I stay in england!). So, by the looks of it, I'm aiming to teach myself all the maths required for understanding cosmology. I'm in my final year of school now, so I have quite a good grasp of algebra, and other basic maths. The first thing I want to teach myself is basic calculus, as that opens a lot of doorways.

SO can anyone recommend a good book (or if more then one, if it helps!) to learn calculus, quite literally from scratch. I guess I have a teacher for help, but I wouldn't count on them knowing much. I have been looking at some precalculus books, and I don't know everything taught inside them, so I think I also need to learn precalculus. Also, if anyone has any experience in cosmology, can anyone recommend books where I can begin applying maths to it?

I might be biting of a bigger chunk then I can chew, as I know this is what universities educate people to do. But I have self taught myself a lot of things (I'm fluent in Esperanto, an international language I self taught myself over the internet). So any advice is hugely appreciated!

Thanks
Richard
 
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Hi Richard, here's my stuff on calculus and related books of math:

* Elementary calculus
* http://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~hass//Calculus/HTAC/excerpts/node39.html
* http://homepages.roadrunner.com/askmrcalculus/VisCalc.html
* calculus.org - The calculus page
* Textbooks and lecture notes in mathematics
* And don't forget Wikibooks.

And for cosmology: arXiv.org cosmology preprints. This gets into some deeper physics, so also check out Review literature in high energy particle physics (which covers more than just particle physics).

Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me if you'd like me to attempt to teach calculus off the top of my head ;)

- Bryan

Edit - the last time I posted on a topic like this it was more geared towards engineering, but it is still useful to point out.
 
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Hi Bryan, thanks for all the links! I have been working over some of the maths pages over the last few days and they are great, and I'm making progress on them. I can't wait to get stuck into those cosmology papers! They look brilliant.

And also, thanks for offering to teach me! I certainly won't trouble you to teach me everything, but its good to know when I get stuck, I have someone there to help! Thanks again!

Richard
 
Gravity From the Ground Up by Schutz may have enough math to be challenging, but not so much that it is overwhelming. The book covers a lot of ground, but only the last 70 or so pages are explicity about cosmology.
 
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Wow, that book looks like exactly what I had in mind. I can't thank you enough, I had no idea books existed that use (simple) algebra applied! I will be ordering it ASAP. Thanks!
 
Sorry for dead-thread-reviving, but I just wanted to say a HUGE thanks to Daverz. This book could not of possibly been better. I can't believe I spent all this time reading pop science, when the real stuff is out here. I recommend Gravity From the Ground Up to ANYONE interested. I haven't even finished high school maths, and I am coping fine. How much you understand, its amazing. Thanks again!
 

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