Max Angle for Ladder Leaning on Wall

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum angle a ladder can lean against a frictionless wall before sliding occurs, given a coefficient of static friction of 0.4 between the ladder and the floor. The analysis uses moments about the ladder's contact point with the floor, leading to the equation 2H.cos(θ) = M.sin(θ), where H is the horizontal force from the wall. The maximum horizontal force from the floor is expressed as H = λ.M, resulting in the relationship tan(θ) = 2.λ. The calculated maximum angle to the vertical is approximately 38.7 degrees or 0.67 radians. This provides a clear understanding of the balance of forces and moments acting on the ladder.
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There is a ladder with mass M that is leaning against a frictionless wall. The coefficient of static friction between the floor and the ladder is say 0.4. What is the max angle that the ladder can make with the vertical before it starts to slide? *the axis of rotation is at the ladder's contact with the floor*
 
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Let ladder be at angle θ to vertical.
Let (horizontal) force from wall be H.
By moments about foot of ladder, 2H.cos(θ) = M.sin(θ).
Force from floor has horizontal component H, vertical component M.
If coefft friction is λ, max H = λ.M, at which point tan(θ) = 2.λ.
 
haruspex said:
Let ladder be at angle θ to vertical.
Let (horizontal) force from wall be H.
By moments about foot of ladder, 2H.cos(θ) = M.sin(θ).
Force from floor has horizontal component H, vertical component M.
If coefft friction is λ, max H = λ.M, at which point tan(θ) = 2.λ.

what did you get as an answer?
 
is this homework?
 
no its not
 
ramly said:
what did you get as an answer?

You're asking me to compute atan(2*0.4) for you? OK: 0.67 radians, or 38.7 degrees.
(Note: that's the angle to the vertical.)
 
haruspex said:
Let ladder be at angle θ to vertical.
Let (horizontal) force from wall be H.
By moments about foot of ladder, 2H.cos(θ) = M.sin(θ).
Force from floor has horizontal component H, vertical component M.
If coefft friction is λ, max H = λ.M, at which point tan(θ) = 2.λ.
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Very detailed info.You made some good points there.thank for give us a good answer.
 
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