Max inversion temperature for a gas (Dieterici’s equation of state)

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The discussion focuses on deriving the maximum inversion temperature for a gas using Dieterici's equation of state. Participants clarify that the inversion curve typically relates temperature (T) to pressure (P), rather than molar volume (V). A user seeks guidance on how to express the inversion temperature using the provided equation, specifically needing to eliminate volume (V) from the equations. Another participant advises solving for V from one equation and substituting it into the other to achieve the desired expression. The user acknowledges this approach and confirms their understanding.
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Homework Statement
I’m trying to calculate the maximum inversion temperature from the inversion curve.
Relevant Equations
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The notes my lecturer has provided state that the maximum temperature can be found taking p = 0 in the inversion curve formula, given as:

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I’m not sure how to obtain this??

These are the formulas:
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This is my attempt at a solution :
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Not sure if this approach is right?
 
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Your work looks correct to me.

For part (b) you obtain the inversion curve as a relation between the inversion temperature ##T## and the molar volume ##V##:

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I believe an inversion curve is typically a relation between ##T## and ##P## rather than between ##T## and ##V##.
 
TSny said:
Your work looks correct to me.

For part (b) you obtain the inversion curve as a relation between the inversion temperature ##T## and the molar volume ##V##:

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I believe an inversion curve is typically a relation between ##T## and ##P## rather than between ##T## and ##V##.
Hey. Thanks for the response. Do you have any idea how I would go about obtaining the expression my lecturer has provided? Namely, $$ P_{inv} = \left[\frac{2a}{b^2} - \frac{RT}{b}\right]e^{\frac{1}{2}-\frac{a}{RTb}}$$ If I am to rewrite ## T = \frac{2a}{R}\left(\frac{1-\frac{b}{V}}{b}\right) ## in terms of ##P## do I not need an explicit expression for T or V from Dieterici’s e.o.s.
 
jonny997 said:
If I am to rewrite ## T = \frac{2a}{R}\left(\frac{1-\frac{b}{V}}{b}\right) ## in terms of ##P## do I not need an explicit expression for T or V from Dieterici’s e.o.s.
You need to eliminate ##V## between the equation of state and the equation ## T = \frac{2a}{R}\left(\frac{1-\frac{b}{V}}{b}\right) ##. Decide which equation is easier to solve for ##V## and then substitute for ##V## in the other equation.
 
TSny said:
You need to eliminate ##V## between the equation of state and the equation ## T = \frac{2a}{R}\left(\frac{1-\frac{b}{V}}{b}\right) ##. Decide which equation is easier to solve for ##V## and then substitute for ##V## in the other equation.
Ahhh okay, thank you. For some reason it didn’t click that I could solve for V using ## T = \frac{2a}{R}\left(\frac{1-\frac{b}{V}}{b}\right) ## and then sub that into the other equation 😬 I’ve got it now
 
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