Maximizing the Chain Rule: Solving Differentiation Problems with Multiple Rules

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The discussion revolves around a differentiation problem involving the function y = (x^5)sqrt(3+x^6) / (4+x^2)^3, which incorporates the chain rule, product rule, and quotient rule. The original poster seeks guidance on the proper order of applying these rules and understanding the structure of the expression.

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  • Participants explore different methods for differentiating the function, including applying the quotient rule and rewriting the expression to facilitate the use of the product rule. There are questions about how to identify the outside function and how to manage multiple terms when applying the product rule.

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Some participants have offered suggestions on how to approach the problem, including rewriting the expression for clarity and discussing the application of differentiation rules. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, and multiple interpretations of the approach are being explored.

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This isn't a homework problem but something that stumped me in selfstudy, however i see this to be the most approperiate place to ask for help nevertheless.

This is straight out of Adan's calculus 6e, Chain rule section.

y= (x^5)sqrt(3+x^6) / (4+x^2)^3

To me it looks like a combination of the chain rule, product rule and quotient rule. But i donät see how to go about solving it, what's the proper order to apply the rules?
Also I don¨t see what the outside function is supposed to be for the whole expression.

Any help would be much appreciated, and general tips for problems requiring multiple differentiation rules would be even more so.

Thanks.
 
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Apply the quotient rule, then the chain rule as required to complete the derivatives called for by the quotient rule.
 
Since, here, the denominator is fairly complex, I would be inclined to write it as
[itex]y= (x^5)\sqrt{3+x^6} (4+x^2)^{-3}[/itex] and use just the product rule (and, of course, the chain rule).
Perhaps even better would be [itex]y= (x^5)(3+x^6)^{1/2} (4+x^2)^{-3}[/itex]
 
Im not sure how to apply the product rule when the number of terms is more than 2.

1. Find the derivatives of the components of den and num, namely
X^5 by power rule = 5x^4
(3+x^6)^1/2 by chain rule = 1/2(3+x^6)^-1/2 (6x^5)
(4+x^2)^3 by chain rule = 3(4+x^2)^2 (2x)

2. Apply product rule to numerator:
f '(num) =(x^5)((1/2(3+x^6)^-1/2(6x^5)) + (5x^4)((3+x^6)^1/2)

3. Plug parts into quotient formula:

It looks like a big mess to me.
 
Dissonance in E said:
Im not sure how to apply the product rule when the number of terms is more than 2.
It's a straight forward extension. If u, v, and w are all functions of x, to find (uvw)' think of it as ((uv)w)' and apply the product rule to the two functions uv and w:
((uv)w)'= (uv)'w+ uvw'. Now apply the product rule to (uv)': (uvw)'= (u'v+ uv')w+ uvw'= u'vw+ uv'w+ uvw'. The extension to any number of factors should be obvious: with n factors you will have n terms each with a different factor differentiated.
 
Ah I see, thanks!
Btw can I delete threads that I created, or is that a mod privilege?
 
No, you have to leave them their so everyone can laugh at how foolish you were- just like they do the rest of us!
 
Ah, the shame :C
 

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