Maximum acceleration of the body in elliptic orbit.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on determining the point of maximum acceleration for a body in an elliptical orbit, exploring the relationship between acceleration, force, and velocity at different points in the orbit, particularly at perihelion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that acceleration is proportional to force and suggests that maximum acceleration occurs at perihelion due to minimum distance r, but questions the implications of maximum speed at that point.
  • Another participant clarifies that at perihelion, the normal component of acceleration is present, while the tangential component is zero, indicating a change in direction of acceleration.
  • A third participant proposes considering acceleration in terms of velocity, noting that acceleration can involve changes in speed and direction.
  • A fourth participant reinforces that force is greatest at the lowest point of the orbit, implying that acceleration must also be greatest there.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of maximum speed at perihelion and the nature of acceleration, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of acceleration components and their implications for motion at perihelion, as well as the relationship between speed and direction in the context of elliptical orbits.

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There was this question in the book, at which place on the elliptic orbit the body has maximum acceleration.

Since acceleration is proportional to force, a = GM/r^2, this should happen when the distance r is minimum, this is when the planet is at perihelion. But the contradiction is that at perihelion the body (or satellite) has its maximum speed, that means that it no longer accelerates to increase speed.

To explain this I would guess that at this point acceleration changes direction and begin slowing the satellite down. Is that really what happens?
 
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A significant component of the acceleration is normal to the path. At the perihelion this is the only component. The tangential component of the acceleration is zero at the perihelion and yes, this component changes direction as the body goes through the perihelion.
 
Maybe it would be helpful to think not in terms of speed but in terms of velocity.

Acceleration is a change in velocity and so can be just a change in speed or also a change in direction or any mixture of the two.
 
The simplest way to look at this is to remember that Force equals Mass times Acceleration.

The Force is highest when at its lowest point of orbit (nearest to the centre of the Earth) and so the acceleration must also be greatest at that point.
 

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