Maxwellian Distribution of Velocities

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mean speed and mean square speed of stars in a Maxwellian distribution with a one-dimensional velocity dispersion, σ. The user initially attempts to derive these values using integrals but encounters discrepancies with the expected results. It is clarified that the correct mean speed is given by \(\bar{v} = \sqrt{8/\pi} \sigma\) and the mean square speed by \(\bar{v^2} = 3\sigma^2\), emphasizing that the integration approach must account for the dimensionality of the distribution. The user realizes that the integration errors stem from not properly applying the one-dimensional context, leading to confusion with three-dimensional cases. The conversation concludes with a focus on the correct interpretation of the velocity components in one dimension.
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Homework Statement


A group of stars in a Maxwellian distribution have a one-dimensional velocity dispersion \sigma. The number of objects within an element d^3v is

dN=F(v) d^3 v=\beta\hspace{2pt}Exp[-v^2/2 \sigma^2]d^3v where \beta is a constant

Find that the mean speed \bar{v}=\sqrt{8/\pi} \text{ }\sigma and \bar{v^2}=3\sigma^2

Homework Equations



I think I need to use these:

\bar{v}=<v>=\int^\infty_0 v F(v) dv
\bar{v^2}=<v^2>=\int^\infty_0 v^2 F(v) dv


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm trying to find the right approach, neither of the above integrals yield the correct answer. Here's what I tried:

F(v) can be found in the equation for dN
F(v)=\beta Exp[-v^2/2\sigma^2]

\bar{v}=\beta \int^\infty_0 v Exp[-v^2/2\sigma^2] dv
\bar{v}=\beta [4 \sigma^4]
which can equal \sqrt{8/\pi} if \beta=\sqrt{2}/2\sigma^3

However then \bar{v^2}=\beta \int^\infty_0 v^2 Exp[-v^2/2\sigma^2] dv
\bar{v^2}=\beta [16 \sigma^6]

Putting in \beta=\sqrt{2}/2\sigma^3:
\bar{v^2}=\sqrt{2}\hspace{3pt} 8 \sigma^3

while the given answer above was \bar{v^2}=3\sigma^2

Where have I gone wrong? Thanks
 
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cahill8 said:

Homework Statement


Find that the mean speed \bar{v}=\sqrt{8/\pi} \text{ }\sigma and \bar{v^2}=3\sigma^2

Are you sure that's the answer? It is for the 3-dimensional case, but we're only talking about a 1-dimensional distribution.

\bar{v}=\beta \int^\infty_0 v Exp[-v^2/2\sigma^2] dv
\bar{v}=\beta [4 \sigma^4]

You made a mistake somewhere in the integration.

However then \bar{v^2}=\beta \int^\infty_0 v^2 Exp[-v^2/2\sigma^2] dv
\bar{v^2}=\beta [16 \sigma^6]

This is also not correct. How did you integrate these functions?
 
Thanks for the reply. That is the answer given (from the textbook galaxy dynamics, problem 4.18)

Your right those answers were wrong, I calculated them using mathematica when writing this topic but inputted the equation wrong.

The first can be done by making a u substitution u=v^2/2\sigma^2 which leads to an answer of \bar{v}=\beta \sigma^2. This can be correct if \beta=\dfrac{\sqrt{8/\pi}}{\sigma}

In order to check this, I calculate \beta \int^\infty_0 v^2 exp[-v^2/2\sigma^2] dv in mathematica, this gives \bar{v^2}=\beta \sqrt{\pi/2} \hspace{2pt}\sigma^3 and after substituting the above \beta:

\bar{v^2}=\sqrt{\dfrac{8\pi}{2\pi}}\sigma^2=2 \sigma^2 While close, the correct answer is 3\sigma^2.

Can you see where I went wrong?
 
I got the exact same answer, so as long as the question is one-dimensional, I think we're both right and the answer key is wrong.

The reason the answer is different for 3 dimensions is that dN has an extra factor of v^2, to account for the fact that the number of combinations of one-dimensional velocities that give a total speed of "v" increases as v^2. However, no such factor exists for the one-dimensional case.
 
Well another part of the question says the mean of one component of velocity, \bar{v_x^2} = \sigma^2

could I simply continue and say \bar{v_x^2}=\beta\int^\infty_0 v_x^2\hspace{2pt} exp\left[-(\sqrt{v_x^2+v_y^2+v_z^2})^2/2\sigma^2\right] dv= \beta\int^\infty_0 v_x^2\hspace{2pt} exp\left[-(v_x^2+v_y^2+v_z^2)/2\sigma^2\right] dv
Not so sure about dv though, v=(v_x^2+v_y^2+v_z^2)^{1/2} dv=?
 
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