Measuring intensity of superposed waves using complex amplitudes

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The discussion centers on calculating the intensity of an electric field with components described by their respective expressions. The initial assumption for intensity is E_{x}^{2} + E_{y}^{2} + 2E_{x}E_{y}\cos\phi, but confusion arises when applying the Jones formalism, which suggests intensity is simply E_{x}^{2} + E_{y}^{2}. Participants debate whether the phase should influence the intensity calculation, with some arguing that it appears irrelevant in the Jones formalism. The conversation highlights the need for clarity on how phase impacts intensity in this context. Ultimately, the correct expression for intensity remains a point of contention.
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Hi,

Suppose we have the x and y components of the electric field being described as (E_{x}e^{i(kz-\omega t)}, E_{y}e^{i(kz-\omega t +\phi)}), what is the intensity?

I think the correct answer is E_{x}^{2} +E_{y}^{2} + 2E_{x}E_{y}\cos\phi. However, I am not sure how to deal with this using the Jones formalism. In that, the intensity is given by E^{\dagger}E which would give

\begin{pmatrix} E_{x}e^{-i(kz-\omega t)} & E_{y}e^{-i(kz-\omega t +\phi)} \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} E_{x}e^{i(kz-\omega t)}\\ E_{y}e^{i(kz-\omega t +\phi)}\end{pmatrix} =E_{x}^{2} +E_{y}^{2}

Clearly, the above answer is independent of the relative phase and I think it cannot be right because of that. So what is the correct way to calculate the intensity using Jones formalism? Thank you
 
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How do you get your first result?
If you flip the sign of Ey, you modify your calculated intensity, which is wrong.
 
The first result was using

I = (E_{x}e^{-i(kz-\omega t)}+ E_{y}e^{-i(kz-\omega t +\phi)})(E_{x}e^{i(kz-\omega t)}+ E_{y}e^{i(kz-\omega t +\phi)})

Now that I think of it, this doesn't seem correct either. What is the correct expression for intensity?
 
E_x^2 + E_y^2 should be correct.
 
Are you sure about that? Is the phase completely irrelevant in the intensity calculation?
 
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