Measuring Range Extension "homework"

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The discussion focuses on measuring the range extension of a moving-coil movement under specific voltage conditions. It outlines the calculation of the series resistance needed for full deflection at 25V, resulting in a value of 247.3 kΩ. Additionally, it addresses how a 20% increase in internal resistance affects the output voltage indicated by the moving coil movement, leading to a calculated output of 24.945 V. Participants clarify the methodology for determining the impact of resistance changes on voltage readings. The exercise aims to deepen understanding of how internal resistance influences measurement accuracy.
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Moved from a technical forum, so homework template missing
a)
dimension the moving-coil movement so that it indicates full deflection at 25 V
given Values:

Voltage Source: U2Max = 25V;
moving-coil movement: IM = 100µA; UM = 270mV

Rv = ( U2Max - UM ) / IM = (25V - 270mV) / 100 µA = 247,3kΩ

b) the internal resistance is increased by 20 % due to tolerances in production. What does the moving coil movement indicate at an output voltage of 25V

My approach is the following...

RM = UM / IM = 270mV / 100µA = 2700Ω

now: it is 20% higher --> RM.Tol = RM *1,2 = 3240Ω

...
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The Answer is : The moving coil movement indicates 24.945 V
 
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Hallo Apo, :welcome:

Nor clear what your dots are representing...
You found a new value for RM and the question is: how far does the meter that you built with this coil and the 247.3 k##\Omega## series resistance go on the scale, when the actually applied voltage is 25 V ?

(and you already know that 100 ##\mu##A gives full scale)
 
Hi BvU
The dots are representing the missing "method" to get to the answer.

In task-part a) i came to the result, that i have to add an other resistance Rv with 247,3kOhm in series so that the moving coil movement shows full deflection.

In b) the internal resistance increases by 20% and voltage source supplies 25 V.
The question is what does the moving coil movement shows?
The answer has to be 24.945 V.

My Idea:

The inner resistance increase by 20%...
--> Rm = Um/Im --> 270mV * 100µA = 2700Ohm
--> RM.Tol = Rm * 1,2 = 3240OhmNow the current strength changes? or the voltage drop? "Over moving coil movement"

--> UM.Tol = RM.Tol * IM = 3240Ohm * 100µA = 324mV

--> Rv = ( U2Max.Tol - UM.Tol ) / IM = > 247,3kOhm = ( U2Max.Tol - 324mV ) / 100µA => (247,3kOhm * 100µA ) + 324mV = U2Max.Tol
=> U2Max.Tol = 25,054 (not true)
 
Hehe, with the answer given you should be able to draw your own conclusion ...:rolleyes:

The intention of he exercise is
for an applied voltge of 25 V the current is now a bit lower. The ideal coil showed full scale at 100 ##\mu##A, but the coil with 20% more resistance will cause a smaller current, so it does not go all the way to full scale. With full scale (= 100 ##\mu##A ) marked as 25V for the ideal coil, the non-ideal coil shows ...

extra exercise: how big is now the voltage drop over the coil ?
 
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