Measuring the intensity of light

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for measuring the intensity of light emitted from a filament lamp, specifically focusing on how varying the current affects light intensity. Participants explore different measurement techniques and their effectiveness, including both theoretical and practical considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using a cathode to emit electrons when light shines on it, suggesting that the current measured could relate to light intensity.
  • Another participant suggests that a CCD or photodiode could effectively measure light intensity.
  • A later reply elaborates on the initial proposal, stating that if current can be measured, it could be used to infer the number of photons and thus the intensity, but notes the challenge of quantum efficiency in photocathodes.
  • Another participant questions whether the term "intensity of light" refers to just the visible spectrum or the entire spectral range emitted by the filament lamp, suggesting the use of a comparison photometer or a grease spot photometer for practical measurement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of various measurement methods, with no consensus on the best approach. There is also uncertainty regarding the definition of "intensity of light" in terms of spectral range.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations such as the lack of 100% quantum efficiency in photocathodes and the potential for confusion regarding the spectral range of light being measured.

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Hi, I'm trying to find out how changing the current fed through to a filament (e.g. sodium) of a lamp would change the light intensity. To determine the relationship, I will first need to find out how to measure the intensity of light. I've thought of one possible way to do it, but the measurement would not give me a direct expression of the intensity of light. Here it is if anyone wants to give me some potential feedback as to whether this would work:

Shine the light onto a cathode made of a metal that the light can emit electrons from. Electrons will then be emitted and will be attracted towards an anode connected to a galvanometer. The current measured will be related to the intensity of the light, where a higher intensity obviously yields a higher current.

Is there any other practical (and relatively simple) way to measure the intensity of light that will result in measurements that are direct expressions of the intensity?

Cheers.
 
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A CCD or a photodiode would do the job I should think.
 
Born2bwire said:
A CCD or a photodiode would do the job I should think.
So is my description of a potential setup okay? I gave it some further thought and I believe that if I can obtain a value for current, I should able to observe the number of photons and hence the intensity because I=q/t. Hence if I divide the total charge per second by the charge of an electron I should be able to get the number of electrons per second and therefore the number of photons per second. The number of electrons per second is directly proportional to the number of photons per second, correct? So my measure of intensity will be number of photons per second?
 
N0b0dy said:
So is my description of a potential setup okay? I gave it some further thought and I believe that if I can obtain a value for current, I should able to observe the number of photons and hence the intensity because I=q/t. Hence if I divide the total charge per second by the charge of an electron I should be able to get the number of electrons per second and therefore the number of photons per second. The number of electrons per second is directly proportional to the number of photons per second, correct? So my measure of intensity will be number of photons per second?

The only issue here is that there are no photocathodes that have 100% quantum efficiency. If you're using a metal as your photocathode, then that's even worse, since metals, at best, have a QE of the order of 10^{-2}%. So there will be plenty of photons that didn't produce a single electrons.

Photodiodes, photomultipliers, photodetectors, etc. tend to be more efficient than your current set up.

Zz.
 
N0b0dy said:
Hi, I'm trying to find out how changing the current fed through to a filament (e.g. sodium) of a lamp would change the light intensity. To determine the relationship, I will first need to find out how to measure the intensity of light. I've thought of one possible way to do it, but the measurement would not give me a direct expression of the intensity of light. Here it is if anyone wants to give me some potential feedback as to whether this would work:

Shine the light onto a cathode made of a metal that the light can emit electrons from. Electrons will then be emitted and will be attracted towards an anode connected to a galvanometer. The current measured will be related to the intensity of the light, where a higher intensity obviously yields a higher current.

Is there any other practical (and relatively simple) way to measure the intensity of light that will result in measurements that are direct expressions of the intensity?

Cheers.
When you refer to "the intensity of light" do you mean just the visible part of the spectrum
or the whole of the spectral band that will be emitted most of this ,with a filament lamp,being in the infra red?

if you are looking at just the visible frequencies you might consider using a comparison photometer.If expense is an issue a Bunsen grease spot photometer might give some meaningful,but crude, results.For this you will need a suitable piece of paper and a spot of something like oil or butter.Google for details.
 
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