What is the relationship between the speed of light and the meter?

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The meter is defined based on the speed of light, specifically as the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 of a second. This creates a circular relationship where the speed of light is measured using a unit derived from it, leading to questions about the validity of such measurements. Historically, the meter was defined differently, based on physical objects, which allowed for meaningful measurements of light's speed. The current definition eliminates experimental error, resulting in a constant speed of light measurement of 299,792,458 m/s. This discussion highlights the evolution of measurement standards and their implications for scientific accuracy.
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Since the question of units of measure has come up recently, I have a question...

The length of the meter is derived from the speed of light. That is, it is the distance that light travels at speed c in a time period derived from the cesium atom.
The speed of light is commonly defined as how many meters it travels in a certain amount of time. 300 kilo meters per second approx.

So we determine the length of the meter in terms of the speed of light, but then we measure the speed of light by using the meter or.. kilo meter.

Why would you measure the speed of something by using a unit of measure that is derived from the speed of the thing you are measuring the speed of ?
 
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The meter (and other metric system units) was originally defined in terms of more prosaic things. The measurement of the speed of light was made in terms of predefined units. I believe that the current definition of meter is in terms of number of wavelengths of a specific energy transition, not in terms of a time period.
 
NIST adopted the definition of a meter as the distance traveled by light in a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 of a second in 1983. The second is defined with an uncertainty of 1 part in 10^14 by a Cesium clock. The iodine stabilized Helium-Neon laser at a wavelength of 632.99139822 nm is the recommended light source.
 
TalonD said:
So we determine the length of the meter in terms of the speed of light, but then we measure the speed of light by using the meter or.. kilo meter.

Why would you measure the speed of something by using a unit of measure that is derived from the speed of the thing you are measuring the speed of ?

your question is right but your premise is not. it makes no sense to measure the speed of light in terms of the meter as it is presently defined by SI. the result of the "measurement" would always be 299792458 m/s with no experimental error, no matter what.

but the meter was not always defined as such. before 1960, when the meter was the distance between two scratch marks on a platinum-iridium bar in France, then it made sense to measure c in terms of the second and meter of the day.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombination_(cosmology) Was a matter density right after the decoupling low enough to consider the vacuum as the actual vacuum, and not the medium through which the light propagates with the speed lower than ##({\epsilon_0\mu_0})^{-1/2}##? I'm asking this in context of the calculation of the observable universe radius, where the time integral of the inverse of the scale factor is multiplied by the constant speed of light ##c##.
Why was the Hubble constant assumed to be decreasing and slowing down (decelerating) the expansion rate of the Universe, while at the same time Dark Energy is presumably accelerating the expansion? And to thicken the plot. recent news from NASA indicates that the Hubble constant is now increasing. Can you clarify this enigma? Also., if the Hubble constant eventually decreases, why is there a lower limit to its value?

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