Mechanical Energy loss due to NC Forces: two railroad cars collide.

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In the collision of two railroad cars, each weighing 4800 kg and traveling at 80 km/h, the total thermal energy produced is calculated using energy conservation principles. Initially, only kinetic energy exists, which transforms entirely into thermal energy upon collision. The correct calculation involves considering both cars, leading to a total thermal energy of 2.4 x 10^6 J, as each car contributes equally to the energy loss. The mistake in the initial calculation stemmed from only accounting for one car's kinetic energy. This discussion highlights the importance of considering all entities involved in energy transformations during collisions.
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[SOLVED-Thanks AL]Mechanical Energy loss due to NC Forces: two railroad cars collide.

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Homework Statement



Two railroad cars each of mass 4800 kg and traveling @ 80 km/h collide head on and come to rest. How much thermal energy is produced in this collision?

Homework Equations



E_k + E_p = E^{'}_k + E^{'}_p + Q

The Attempt at a Solution



This problem does not use momentum. Energy considerations only.

I treat one car as a single entity.

Energy before = energy after.

There was only an initial kinetic energy at the beginning and no kinetic energy afterwards. so i assume all the energy was transformed to Q.

\frac{1}{2}mv^2 = Q

after finding 80 km/h = 22.2222... m/s

i solved and got 1.2 x 10^6 J, the answer is double that, 2.4 x 10^6 J, where did i go wrong?
 
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