Mechanical Engineering, real-world adv. math applications?

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The discussion centers on the relevance and application of advanced mathematics in the field of Mechanical Engineering (ME), particularly how much of the theoretical math learned during studies is utilized in real-world engineering practices. Participants explore the balance between abstract mathematical concepts and practical applications in the workplace.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the practical use of advanced math, specifically questioning the necessity of techniques for calculating volumes of abstract 3D objects in professional settings.
  • Another participant argues against the mindset of questioning the utility of learned math, suggesting that the purpose of education is to develop logical and rational thinking skills, rather than just memorizing equations.
  • A participant shares their experience from graduate school, noting that while they never used partial differential equations in their engineering career, the exposure to higher-level math was still valuable for their overall understanding of engineering concepts.
  • Another contributor emphasizes the importance of learning to think abstractly, indicating that this skill is crucial for engineers and contributes to their unique problem-solving abilities.
  • A student without industry experience reassures others that graduates often find they are applying fundamental concepts in a more straightforward manner than in university, suggesting a potential disconnect between academic and practical applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of abstract thinking and the foundational role of advanced mathematics in engineering, though there is no consensus on the extent to which these concepts are directly applied in the workplace. Multiple perspectives on the relevance of advanced math remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight that the value of advanced math may not always be in direct application but rather in fostering a deeper understanding of engineering principles. There is an acknowledgment of the variability in math usage depending on specific engineering careers.

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Currently pursuing a degree in Mechanical Engineering, and commonly ponder about how much of this semi-abstract math I will actually be using the workplace. I have heard real-world ME relies pretty heavily on linear algebra and differential equations.

As far as advanced Calculus goes I understand the fundamentals are important but I can't imagine having to use some of these techniques to find volumes of abstract 3D objects. I would assume in much 3D modeling, the program takes care of the bulk of things (unfortunate for the program designers). I can see simple deriving and integrating could become useful in physics applications.

I'm just talking strictly math here. Obviously strength of materials, vibrations, and fluids are all very practical and all incorporate math specifically. My question is focused on any math outside of remembering equations and plugging and chugging.

Obviously it will differ from specific careers, but just curious if any current ME's could shed some light on how much and how dense the advanced math use is in the workplace today. Much appreciated.
 
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The worst thing you can think about whilst doing your degree is "Am i ever even going to use this".. I hear it all the time, and has become a bit of pet hate.

Remember that sometimes you aren't taught certain things simply because of how important they are in the workforce. Rather you are taught things which all accumulate towards you being able to think in a certain way.

Consider the case of a high school student who is looking to pursue Journalism as a career, and all the abstract math they learn during school is considered a 'waste'. While it's true that this student may not directly apply the technical math discovered in high school, the student will have gained the ability to think logically, and rationally.

Timb0Slice said:
My question is focused on any math outside of remembering equations and plugging and chugging.

If you think math is anything to do with remembering equations and plugging and chugging, then you're thinking about it in the wrong way.
 
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I fully agree with Joppy's response. A long long time ago when I was
in grad school, I took a course in Elasticity theory where the prof would fill up blackboards on three sides of the room (using chalk, not computers) with messy partial differential equations to solve the problem. I remember thinking that if I had to do this heavy math repeatedly in my career, then I wanted out. Well, in my engineering jobs over the decades, I've never had to use a partial differential equation, but that in no way means that the course was a waste of my time and energy. Knowledge and exposure to some higher levels of math is essential in engineering, even though you may never use it directly. Joppy explained it well.
And if you think engineering may just be 'plug and chug', think again. It's nothing like that.
 
I completely agree with both of you. I should have elaborated more when I said "I understand the fundamentals are important". I had in a way meant "learning to think abstractly". That's one of the things that draws me to engineering so strongly is the almost "different level of consciousness" that engineers are in.

My question was more focus on what PhanthomJay had said about wanting out, if the rest of my life would be obnoxiously long equations calculations. But I absolutely appreciate both of your inputs. I suppose these classes also do a good job weeding out those students who are not motivated enough to make an impact in the workplace either.
 
I don't think you've got anything to worry about : ).

I am a student still and don't have any industry experience. But from speaking to friends who have graduated and are now working as engineers, i am always told that they are usually just applying the fundamentals, and in some cases, it's 'easier' than university.
 

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