Mechanics General Motion in a Straight Line

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A particle starts from rest and accelerates at 0.6t m/s² until t = 10 seconds, resulting in a velocity of 30 m/s and a displacement of 100 m. After t = 10 seconds, the particle experiences a negative acceleration of -0.4t m/s² until it comes to rest. The confusion arises regarding the initial velocity for this second phase, where it should be 30 m/s, not 50 m/s as mistakenly noted in the answer sheet. Correct calculations show that integrating the acceleration correctly leads to the conclusion that the initial conditions must be applied properly to find the correct displacement and velocity. The final results confirm that the integration limits and constants must be accurately determined for the second part of the problem.
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Homework Statement


A particle P starts from rest at a point O and moves in a straight line. P has acceleration 0.6t m s−2
at time t seconds after leaving O, until t = 10.
(i) Find the velocity and displacement from O of P when t = 10.
After t = 10, P has acceleration −0.4t m/s^2 until it comes to rest at a point A.
(ii) Find the distance OA.


Homework Equations


v = ∫a dt & s = ∫v dt


The Attempt at a Solution


For (i) v = ∫a dt = 0.3t^2 +c (c=0) = 0.3 x 10^2 = 30 m/s
s = ∫v dt = 0.1t^3 +c (c=0) = .1x10^3 = 100 m

But for (ii) I did the same thing...
a = -0.4t m/s^2
→ v = ∫a dt = -0.2 t^2 + c = -0.2 t^2 +30 because the initial velocity (when t=10s) is 30 m/s. However the answer said it should be 50 m/s? Could anyone explain me that please?

Also s=∫v dt = (-0.2t^3)/3 + 30t +100 (but the answer said -1000/3?)
 
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1. are your answers to (i) correct?
2. What are your limits of integration for (ii) and how did you get them?
 
Giiang said:
→ v = ∫a dt = -0.2 t^2 + c = -0.2 t^2 +30 because the initial velocity (when t=10s) is 30 m/s. However the answer said it should be 50 m/s?
The answer said what should be 50 m/s? The velocity in (i)?
 
this is the answer sheet:
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That's clearly an error on the answer sheet. The text on the lower right box says taking the initial speed as 30 m/s.
If you care to post your answers to (ii) someone will check them.
 
Giiang said:

The Attempt at a Solution


For (i) v = ∫a dt = 0.3t^2 +c (c=0) = 0.3 x 10^2 = 30 m/s
s = ∫v dt = 0.1t^3 +c (c=0) = .1x10^3 = 100 m
These should be definite integrals, not indefinite ones. You got away with it here, because one of the limits of integration is 0. However, this is what trips you up on the second part of the problem.
 
haruspex said:
That's clearly an error on the answer sheet. The text on the lower right box says taking the initial speed as 30 m/s.
It seems okay to me. The initial speed is not 30 m/s, but the speed at t = 10, the start of the second part of the problem, is 30 m/s.
 
tms said:
It seems okay to me. The initial speed is not 30 m/s, but the speed at t = 10, the start of the second part of the problem, is 30 m/s.
Yes, the text in the lower right box is correct, and agrees with Giiang's result. But the text in the lower left box says 50 m/s.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, the text in the lower right box is correct, and agrees with Giiang's result. But the text in the lower left box says 50 m/s.
That 50 comes from the integration in the first part of question ii.
v(t_F) = v(10) + \int_{10}^{t_F} (-0.4t) dt = 0.
Solving that for t_F, along the way you get
v(t_F) = v(10) - 0.2t_F^2 + 20 = 0.
 
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Alright look, the books answers are right. Your initial conditions and method of solving for (ii) is wrong. Plain and simple. The constant of integration doesn't always equal your initial condition. You need to actually solve for it. that's where the 50 comes in from. It doesn't say the initial velocity is 50, it comes from the fact that v(10)=30 as your initial condition. Plug it in and solve.
 
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once again...
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
2. What are your limits of integration for (ii) and how did you get them?
 
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I got it. Thanks!

So,
a = -0.4t m/s^2
→ v = ∫a dt = -0.2 t^2 + c

and it was found in (i) that v(10) = 30
→ 30 = - 0.2 10^2 +c → c = 50

The same goes with displacement.
 
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