Megger Testing of Transformers: Earth Terminals & Insulation Check

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the megger testing of transformers, focusing on which terminals should be earthed during the test and the methodology for checking insulation. It encompasses technical explanations and practical considerations related to the testing process.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that megger tests are used to assess the insulation of transformers by measuring between windings and between windings and the metal core.
  • Concerns are raised about the capacitance in large transformers, which can retain a charge after testing, necessitating the use of a shorting bar to discharge it.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the exact process and theoretical background of insulation testing.
  • Another participant describes the operation of a megger, emphasizing that a transformer should not conduct between windings or from any winding to ground, and explains the procedure for testing insulation.
  • There is a warning about the potential danger of touching both leads of a megger simultaneously, as it can deliver a shock.
  • Participants discuss the appropriate voltage settings for testing transformers, noting that 1000 volts is generally safe for such tests.
  • Clarification is provided that the frame of most transformers is grounded during normal use, and this grounding is relevant when testing for leakage to the frame.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of grounding and the procedure for megger testing, but there are nuances regarding the exact terminals to be earthed and the specifics of the testing process that remain somewhat unclear.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific parts of the transformer that should be grounded during testing, indicating a need for further clarification on this aspect.

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hi, in megger test of transformers which terminals we have to Earth and why? How this test is used to check insulation?
 
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Megger tests on transformers are to test the insulation of the transformer.

So you would measure between windings, and between windings and the metal core of the transformer.

Be aware that on large transformers these areas can have substantial capacitance and they can hold a possibly lethal charge for days after the test. So, it is important to discharge this capacitance by the use of a shorting bar.
 
vk6kro said:
Megger tests on transformers are to test the insulation of the transformer.

So you would measure between windings, and between windings and the metal core of the transformer.

Be aware that on large transformers these areas can have substantial capacitance and they can hold a possibly lethal charge for days after the test. So, it is important to discharge this capacitance by the use of a shorting bar.

thnx for the reply but i want to know the exact process to check the insulation and the theory behind it?...please help
 
A transformer should not conduct at all between windings or from any winding to ground.

So, depending on the type on Megger, you attach the Megger to the windings you want to test the insulation between and then push a button to produce a high voltage.

If the insulation is OK then the meter will indicate that there is no conduction or that there is infinite resistance between the windings.

You release the button and wait for the voltage to be dissipated or you may have to short out the leads to make the transformer safe.

Never touch both leads of a Megger at the same time, even if you believe it is safe. They can deliver a vicious shock.

I have used hand-held meggers and they are mostly simple to use. Really old ones used to have a handle which you had to wind to get a high voltage. More recent ones just have a DC-DC converter in them which generates the high voltage.

Mostly, you get a choice of voltage to test with. This voltage might be 500 V, 1000 V or 2000 V.
It is possible to do damage with this feature if you select too high a voltage when testing components that are not rated for such a high voltage, but for testing transformers you could test on 1000 volts safely.
 
vk6kro said:
A transformer should not conduct at all between windings or from any winding to ground.

So, depending on the type on Megger, you attach the Megger to the windings you want to test the insulation between and then push a button to produce a high voltage.

If the insulation is OK then the meter will indicate that there is no conduction or that there is infinite resistance between the windings.

You release the button and wait for the voltage to be dissipated or you may have to short out the leads to make the transformer safe.

Never touch both leads of a Megger at the same time, even if you believe it is safe. They can deliver a vicious shock.

I have used hand-held meggers and they are mostly simple to use. Really old ones used to have a handle which you had to wind to get a high voltage. More recent ones just have a DC-DC converter in them which generates the high voltage.

Mostly, you get a choice of voltage to test with. This voltage might be 500 V, 1000 V or 2000 V.
It is possible to do damage with this feature if you select too high a voltage when testing components that are not rated for such a high voltage, but for testing transformers you could test on 1000 volts safely.
thank u very much for ur xplanation...i have only one doubt tht is which part of the transformer has to be grounded while performin the test and y?
 
You may have misunderstood this.

The frame of most transformers is grounded in normal use, so testing the transformer windings for leakage to frame involves grounding one side of the Megger.
 
vk6kro said:
You may have misunderstood this.

The frame of most transformers is grounded in normal use, so testing the transformer windings for leakage to frame involves grounding one side of the Megger.

ok i got it thank u very much i truly appreciate ur help
 

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