Metric for Lambdavacuum EFE - Radial Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around the metric for the Lambdavacuum solution to the Einstein Field Equations (EFE) in radial coordinates. Participants explore various aspects of the metric, including its relation to the Minkowski and Schwarzschild metrics, and the implications of including a cosmological constant.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding the equation for the metric for the Lambdavacuum solution in radial coordinates.
  • Another participant suggests that the metric remains the same as that of a 2-sphere with the addition of the Lambda term, later correcting themselves to indicate that the vacuum solution produces the Minkowski metric.
  • A participant provides the Minkowski metric and the Schwarzschild metric, noting that the latter becomes Minkowski at infinity.
  • Links to external resources are shared for further reference on the Schwarzschild solution including Lambda.
  • One participant mentions the de Sitter metric as the appropriate solution for the Lambdavacuum case, clarifying the definition of radial coordinates in this context.
  • Another participant presents a proposed metric that includes both the Schwarzschild radius and the cosmological constant, questioning the behavior of the metric as the radial coordinate approaches infinity.
  • There is a query about the sign of the cosmological constant and its implications for the metric's behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact form of the Lambdavacuum metric, with multiple competing views on its representation and the role of the cosmological constant. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the proposed metrics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the correct formulation of the Lambdavacuum metric and the conditions under which different metrics apply. There are unresolved questions regarding the behavior of the metric at infinity and the sign of the cosmological constant.

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I am having trouble finding the equation for the metric for the Lambdavacuum solution to the EFE in radial coordinates. Any suggestions?
 
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The metric doesn't change with the addition of the Lambda term. So, it's the same as the metric of a 2-sphere. Can you get that?

EDIT: I didn't see you were looking for a vacuum solution. The metric should then be the Minkowski Metric.
 
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The vacuum field solution of empty space with no cosmological constant produces the Minkowski metric:

\begin{equation}

d\vec{s}^2=d\vec{x}^2-dt^2

\end{equation}In radial coordinates, the vacuum field solution around a spherical mass produces the Schwarzschild metric:

\begin{equation}

\begin{split}

d\vec{s}^2&=\left(\frac{1}{1-\frac{\vec{r}_s}{\vec{r}}} \right) d\vec{r}^2 + \vec{r}^2 \left(d\theta^2 + \sin^2\theta d\varphi^2 \right) -\left(1 - \frac{\vec{r}_s}{\vec{r}} \right) dt^2

\end{split}

\end{equation}Which as ##\vec{r}\to \infty## becomes the Minkowski metric, where ##\vec{x}=[\vec{r}, \theta, \varphi]##.I am still not sure how to write metric of the Lambdavacuum solution. What is ##d\vec{s}^2## as a function of ##\Lambda## and ##g_{\mu \nu}##?.
 
redtree said:
I am having trouble finding the equation for the metric for the Lambdavacuum solution to the EFE in radial coordinates. Any suggestions?
Also look at Carroll's lecture notes from eq. 8.7 onward and you will see the metric and how it relates to Einstein's field equations, including the cosmological constant.
 
redtree said:
I am still not sure how to write metric of the Lambdavacuum solution

It's the de Sitter metric; see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sitter_space

If by "radial coordinates" you mean coordinates with a radial coordinate ##r## defined the way it is in Schwarzschild coordinates (such that the area of a 2-sphere at radial coordinate ##r## is ##4 \pi r^2##), those are the "static coordinates" described at that link.
 
That's great. Thanks!

Given:
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
d\vec{s}^2&=\left(\frac{1}{1-\frac{\vec{r}_s}{\vec{r}}-\frac{\Lambda \vec{r}^2}{3}} \right) d\vec{r}^2 + \vec{r}^2 \left(d\theta^2 + \sin^2\theta d\varphi^2 \right) -\left(1 - \frac{\vec{r}_s}{\vec{r}}-\frac{\Lambda \vec{r}^2}{3} \right) dt^2
\end{split}
\end{equation}

Am I correct in the following, where ##\tilde{\infty}## denotes complex infinity?:
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
\lim_{\vec{r}\to \infty} d\vec{s}&=\tilde{\infty}
\end{split}
\end{equation}

With a singularity at the transition between real and imaginary values for ##\vec{s}##.
 
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PeterDonis said:
It's the de Sitter metric; see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Sitter_space

If by "radial coordinates" you mean coordinates with a radial coordinate ##r## defined the way it is in Schwarzschild coordinates (such that the area of a 2-sphere at radial coordinate ##r## is ##4 \pi r^2##), those are the "static coordinates" described at that link.
Sure, this is what I quoted for ##m=0## (i.e., ##r_{\text{S}}=0##).
 
Given:
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
d\vec{s}^2&=\left(\frac{1}{1-\frac{\vec{r}_s}{\vec{r}}-\frac{\Lambda \vec{r}^2}{3}} \right) d\vec{r}^2 + \vec{r}^2 \left(d\theta^2 + \sin^2\theta d\varphi^2 \right) -\left(1 - \frac{\vec{r}_s}{\vec{r}}-\frac{\Lambda \vec{r}^2}{3} \right) dt^2
\end{split}
\end{equation}

Am I right in understanding ##\Lambda## is negative such that ##\frac{\Lambda \vec{r}^2}{3}## is positive?
 

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