Metric Space, open and closed sets

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The discussion revolves around the properties of open and closed sets within the context of a discrete metric space. The original poster presents a problem involving a set X defined by discrete metrics and asks for clarification on the openness and closedness of subsets of X.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definitions of open and closed sets in metric spaces, with some attempting to relate these concepts to the discrete metric. Questions arise regarding the nature of limit points and the implications of subsets being open or closed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest using the complement of sets to determine openness, while others question the assumptions made about limit points and the specific metrics involved. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is set in an abstract context, which limits the applicability of certain geometric intuitions. There is also mention of the discrete topology, which may influence the understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Let X be set donoted by the discrete metrics
d(x; y) =(0 if x = y;
1 if x not equal y:
(a) Show that any sub set Y of X is open in X
(b) Show that any sub set Y of X is closed in y

Homework Equations



In a topological space, a set is closed if and only if it coincides with its closure. Equivalently, a set is closed if and only if it contains all of its limit points.

A subset U of a metric space (M, d) is called open if, given any point x in U, there exists a real number ε > 0 such that, given any point y in M with d(x, y) < ε, y also belongs to U. Equivalently, U is open if every point in U has a neighbourhood contained in U.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to use the line y=x and said that there is a finite many balls centered along the line, that means its open because of the union. But my prof said that we r working in abstract so we can't use R2. How would this work then?
 
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For (b), it is clear that if we fix a point x, the set {y | d(x,y) < 1/2} is just the point x What are the limit points of X?

For (a), use the fact that a set is open if it's complement is closed. If all the subsets of X are closed, then the complement of every subset is closed.
 
(b) Show that any sub set Y of X is closed in X...is the correct question
 
Yes, I assumed that's what was meant.
 
the set {y | d(x,y) < 1/2}...how was developed? and why less than 1/2?
 
there are only really two cases here as the distance between every point is 1, the two cases are

d>=1
d<1
consisder what points aere within a ball of each radius in each case

the choice of d<1/2 was probably an abritray d<1 case to consider
 
this is known as the discrete topology of X
 

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