Metronome question: Figuring out net torque and expression for beats per minute?

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The discussion revolves around a mechanical metronome, focusing on calculating net torque and deriving expressions related to beats per minute. The problem involves understanding the dynamics of a physical pendulum and its oscillatory motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the net torque on the metronome and questions how to combine the torques from two different masses. They also seek guidance on deriving the expression for beats per second.
  • Some participants discuss the formula for the frequency of oscillation and its relation to beat frequency, while others question the correctness of the approach and the assumptions made.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering potential formulas and insights into the mechanics involved. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches or the final expressions being discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes specific values for masses and lengths, and participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement, including the requirement to show that the metronome oscillates in simple harmonic motion under certain conditions.

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Homework Statement



A metronome is a device used by musicians to help them adjust
the timing of their music to a standard number of beats per
minute. The position of the moveable slider determines the
frequency. It is possible to build a simple mechanical
metronome using a light stick and two masses, as shown in the
diagram.

(a) Assume the metronome is displaced from the vertical by an
angle, theta, as shown in the figure. Find an expression for the net
torque on the metronome about the pivot. Go through the
necessary steps to show that it will oscillate in SHM providing 
is a small angle and M1L1 > M2L2. Find an expression for the
number of beats per second of the metronome (note that there
are 2 beats per cycle of oscillation).

(b) Suppose M1 = 0.200 kg, M2 = 0.0500 kg, and L1 = 5.0 cm. Calculate the number of
beats per minute if:
(i) L2 = 16.3 cm. (Check your answer: 60 beats per minute.)
(ii) L2 = 6.8 cm.

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Really need help with this:

The torque on M1 is –(M1 *g * L1 *sin(theta)) correct? The torque on M2 is positive (CCW). I add them together to get net torque right?

How do I add them together?

Also after that, how do I find an expression for the numbe of beats per second, as stated in the question.
 
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Thanks sammy!

Any help on this would be great! Having some issues :(
 
Anyone? :)
 
is this correct?

The mechanism is a physical pendulum. f = (1/2π)√[m*g*L/I] where m = M1+M2, L = distance from CM to pivot, and I = moment of inertia about pivot.
Ergo, beat frequency fb = f/2 = (1/4π)√[mgL/I]
 

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