Minimum Energy of Noninteracting Particles in 1D Box: Spin 1/2, 1, 3/2

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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum energy of five noninteracting particles of different spins (1/2, 1, and 3/2) in a one-dimensional box. Participants emphasize the importance of using the wavefunction for particles in an infinite square well and considering the spin states of the particles, as they affect energy levels. The concept of noninteracting particles simplifies the problem, allowing for straightforward calculations without the complexities of interactions. There is a recurring question about whether the particles will have the same energies, highlighting the distinction between fermions and bosons. Overall, the thread seeks clarity on the conceptual and mathematical approaches needed to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement



What is the minimum possible energy for five noninteracting spin 1/2 particles of mass m in a one-dimensional box of length L? What if the particles were spin 1? Spin 3/2?

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Could someone get me started?

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U = [-e/(m_e)](sqrt[3]/2)(h_bar)B, where h_bar = 1.055E-34
m_e = electron mass
e = electron charge
B = magnetic field
 
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You need the wavefunction for particles in an infinite square well (which is the same as this box). Then feed in your particles to the energy levels, as you would in an atom, then calculate the energy of the last electron in the orbital. Do the same for spin 1 and spin 3/2 particles. Take care with what spin states a level can have, and whetherthe particles are fermions or a bosons.
 
I think this problem has a conceptual part you are being tested on, not requiring calculation really, and a more mathematical part.
Before starting the math part which maybe is getting in the way, state the concept which will indicate too how you have to proceed for the math part.
In each case will the electrons all have the same energies as each other?
 
epenguin said:
In each case will the electrons all have the same energies as each other?

These aren't electrons! They're non-interacting. This makes the question much easier.
 
wave function y = (sqrt(2)/L)*sin[k(pi)x/L]

Do i use the fact that y_s = y(1)y'(2) + y'(1)y(2) because it is symmetric?

Im not sure how to use this
 
epenguin said:
In each case will the electrons all have the same energies as each other?

DeShark said:
These aren't electrons! They're non-interacting. This makes the question much easier.

OK.

In each case will the particles all have the same energies as each other?
 
I really want to solve this same problem pls help...
 
What is the minimum possible energy for five noninteracting spin 1/2 particles of mass m in a one-dimensional box of length L? What if the particles were spin 1? Spin 3/2?
 
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