Minimum radius to avoid voltage breakdown?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the minimum radius required to prevent voltage breakdown between two metal surfaces, specifically a cylinder and a rod. Participants explore the relationship between the radius of curvature, voltage, separation distance, and environmental conditions affecting breakdown.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the electric field near a conductor is inversely proportional to the radius of curvature of the surface and seeks to calculate the minimum radius to avoid arcing.
  • Another participant suggests consulting Paschen's law for relevant information on voltage breakdown and its dependence on various factors.
  • A participant emphasizes the need to consider the voltage, separation distance, pressure, and chemical identity of the gas between the electrodes when determining the minimum radius.
  • It is mentioned that the radius of curvature is often assumed to be effectively infinite in calculations, implying that its effect on the electric field may be negligible compared to other factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding regarding the factors influencing voltage breakdown, and there is no consensus on a specific minimum radius or methodology for calculation. Multiple competing views remain on the significance of the radius in relation to other parameters.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence of the minimum radius on several variables, including voltage, separation distance, pressure, and gas composition, which are not fully resolved in the conversation.

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I am trying to figure out the minimum radius needed to avoid voltage breakdown. I found this from a Physics website:

"The electric field near a conductor is inversely proportional to the radius of curvature of the surface."

So if I know the voltage and the distance between the 2 metal surfaces (a cylinder and rod), how would I calculate the minimum radius needed on the cylinder to keep from arcing between the cylinder and rod? Am I going about this wrong? Help?
 
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I guess I should have specified. I'm looking for at the difference a radius has on a voltage breakdown. Right now I have a square edge, but needed know the minimum radius needed to avoid a breakdown.
 
rwiebe89 said:
I guess I should have specified. I'm looking for at the difference a radius has on a voltage breakdown. Right now I have a square edge, but needed know the minimum radius needed to avoid a breakdown.

The minimum radius will depend on the voltage, the separation and the pressure and chemical identity of the gas in between your two electrodes. That is why I pointed you towards the Paschen curve data. If you know 3 of the 4 quantities above, then you can calculate the 4th. The radius of curvature is not generally one of the input quantities .. I *think* this is because it is generally assumed to be effectively infinite (i.e. the ratio of the radius to the separation between electrodes is large enough that the field inhomogeneity induced by the curvature is negligible.
 

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