Mixture Problems: Solving with TI 83/App/Program

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The problem involves a tank containing a mixture of brine and salt, where pure water enters and the mixed solution is drained at the same rate. Participants are exploring how to determine the amount of salt in the tank over time, specifically after a certain number of minutes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of a differential equation to model the situation and question the utility of using a TI-83 calculator or similar tools for solving mixture problems. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying concepts rather than seeking quick solutions.

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Some participants express skepticism about the availability of helpful tools on the TI-83 for this type of problem, while others emphasize the importance of manually solving the differential equation to foster understanding. There is recognition of the time constraints faced during tests and quizzes, but no consensus on a specific tool or method has been reached.

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Participants note the challenge of managing time effectively during assessments while still grasping the concepts involved in solving mixture problems.

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Homework Statement



A tank contains 1000L of brine with 15 Kg of dissolved salt. Pure water enters the tank at a rate of 10 L/Min. The soultion is kept thoroughtly mixed and drained from the tank at the same rate. How much salt is in the tank(a) after t minutes and (b) after 20 minutes

Homework Equations



∫\frac{dy}{dt}=(rate in)-(rate out)

The Attempt at a Solution


A.)15e^(-t/200)
B.)12.3 Kg

-------Okay, I knew the answer to this but this isn't what I wanted to ask but I hope it can help you to help me.

Can someone help me find a formula on the ti 83 to give the answers faster?(so I can check) or a program/app that helps with mixture problems? (also known as separable equations used in differential equations in Calculus II)
 
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jzachey said:

Homework Statement



A tank contains 1000L of brine with 15 Kg of dissolved salt. Pure water enters the tank at a rate of 10 L/Min. The soultion is kept thoroughtly mixed and drained from the tank at the same rate. How much salt is in the tank(a) after t minutes and (b) after 20 minutes

Homework Equations



∫\frac{dy}{dt}=(rate in)-(rate out)

The Attempt at a Solution


A.)15e^(-t/200)
B.)12.3 Kg

-------Okay, I knew the answer to this but this isn't what I wanted to ask but I hope it can help you to help me.

Can someone help me find a formula on the ti 83 to give the answers faster?(so I can check) or a program/app that helps with mixture problems? (also known as separable equations used in differential equations in Calculus II)
I doubt very much that there is something on the TI 83 that would help here, and I consider this to be a good thing. It might be that someone somewhere has a Web site that let's you enter the parameters in a mixture problem, but I have no idea where one might be, and not much interest in looking for one.

The best way to learn to do these problems is, IMO, to sit down with a piece of paper and write down the differential equation that represents the situation, and then solve the differential equation - by hand.

If you had a job in which your sole responsibility was to solve mixture problems all day, day in and day out, then automating this task to speed it up would make sense. But that's not your situation. Your job is to understand how to extract the important information from a word problem, and go through (and understand!) the steps to finding a solution. The key here is understanding, not speed.

My $.02
 
Mark44 said:
I doubt very much that there is something on the TI 83 that would help here, and I consider this to be a good thing. It might be that someone somewhere has a Web site that let's you enter the parameters in a mixture problem, but I have no idea where one might be, and not much interest in looking for one.

The best way to learn to do these problems is, IMO, to sit down with a piece of paper and write down the differential equation that represents the situation, and then solve the differential equation - by hand.

If you had a job in which your sole responsibility was to solve mixture problems all day, day in and day out, then automating this task to speed it up would make sense. But that's not your situation. Your job is to understand how to extract the important information from a word problem, and go through (and understand!) the steps to finding a solution. The key here is understanding, not speed.

My $.02

Very well said!

RGV
 
Mark44 said:
Your job is to understand how to extract the important information from a word problem, and go through (and understand!) the steps to finding a solution. The key here is understanding, not speed.

My $.02

Thank you Mark44, I understand this problem by heart already, but kindly understand it's a bit time consuming on tests, quizzes so forth.often when your on a limited time frame.
 

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