Modern Quantum Mechanics 3rd Ed: J. J. Sakurai & Jim Napolitano Review

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the suitability of "Modern Quantum Mechanics, 3rd Edition" by J. J. Sakurai and Jim Napolitano as a textbook for learning quantum mechanics. Participants explore its level of difficulty, target audience, and comparisons with other quantum mechanics texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants consider the book excellent but note it is quite advanced, suggesting it is better suited for senior undergraduates or graduate students.
  • One participant advises skipping the chapter on "relativistic quantum mechanics" in favor of introductory texts on relativistic quantum field theory, while praising the book's treatment of non-relativistic quantum theory.
  • Another participant suggests starting with Townsend's book for a modern approach to quantum mechanics, implying Sakurai's text may not be the best starting point.
  • A participant mentions their fondness for Shankar’s book and acknowledges that Sakurai's book is good, provided the reader has the necessary physics background.
  • One participant emphasizes that Sakurai's book assumes familiarity with fundamental concepts like the Schrödinger equation and Hamiltonian mechanics, indicating it is not suitable for beginners.
  • Another participant shares their experience of learning quantum mechanics at a different pace in their university, highlighting variations in educational approaches across institutions.
  • Some participants recommend alternative texts, such as Young and Freedman or A. I. Lvovsky's book, for those seeking a more basic introduction to quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that "Modern Quantum Mechanics" is not an introductory text and is aimed at more advanced learners. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the best starting points for learning quantum mechanics, with no consensus on a single recommended text.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with quantum mechanics and different educational backgrounds, which may influence their perspectives on the book's appropriateness for different learners.

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This discussion may be useful for students considering different quantum mechanics textbooks, educators looking for recommendations, and individuals interested in the varying approaches to teaching quantum mechanics across different educational systems.

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Is Modern Quantum Mechanics, 3rd Edition, by J. J. Sakurai and Jim Napolitano a good book to learn quantum mechanics from?
 
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Vectronix said:
Is Modern Quantum Mechanics, 3rd Edition, by J. J. Sakurai and Jim Napolitano a good book to learn quantum mechanics from?
It is excellent, but it's quite an advanced treatment - perhaps better for senior undergraduates.
 
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PeroK said:
It is excellent, but it's quite an advanced treatment - perhaps better for senior undergraduates.
Thank you!
 
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Skip the chapter on "relativistic quantum mechanics" and read a good introductory textbook on relativistic quantum field theory instead. Otherwise it's an excellent textbook about non-relativistic quantum theory.
 
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vanhees71 said:
Skip the chapter on "relativistic quantum mechanics" and read a good introductory textbook on relativistic quantum field theory instead. Otherwise it's an excellent textbook about non-relativistic quantum theory.
Thank you for the advice!
 
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I’m very fond of Shankar’s book. I have only skimmed Sakurai, since I mainly focus on Mathematics nowadays, but Sakurai, from what I read, was very good. Provided you have the physics background…
 
I'm studying Sakurai now to keep my mind busy during the summer. It is not an introductory book. He assumes you've already completed a course in quantum mechanics. His intention is to show you that a linear algebra-based approach can provide a deeper understanding of QM. He assumes (explicitly stated!) that the reader has already seen the Schrödinger equation, Heisenberg uncertainty principle, etc., etc. He also assumes that you're already well-versed in Hamiltonian mechanics (not just what a Hamiltonian is, but actively compares to deeper results that require completing a good classical mechanics class). It is a textbook that would serve well for grad students, but would be an awful choice as an introduction. I don't even think the reader would appreciate the elegance and point of what he is doing if they had not already slogged through the wave mechanics approach.
 
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DavidW said:
It is a textbook that would serve well for grad students

A little OT, but it's interesting how different parts of the world/universities have different apprach to studying physics. I studied at Warsaw University, and this:

DavidW said:
that the reader has already seen the Schrödinger equation, Heisenberg uncertainty principle, etc., etc. (...) Hamiltonian mechanics (not just what a Hamiltonian is, but actively compares to deeper results that require completing a good classical mechanics class

we already learnt by the end of 2nd year of undergrad/bachelor studies. We had proper QM lectures (using linear algebra and all that) in the first semester of 3rd yeard. It makes me appreciate my alma mater even more 😁
 
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I haven't heard of it, but the posts above suggest it's for more advanced learners.

If you want something more basic, and you're not intending to dive very deep into what's going on, then Young and Freedman have 2 chapters which introduce QM and I found them very approachable as someone whose physics knowledge goes little beyond what was covered in the rest of the book (the sort of things you would encounter in 1st year of Undergrad I think: but don't quote me on that)

Alternatively, I've heard that A. I. Lvovsky, Quantum Physics: An Introduction Based on Photons is quite good: I'm planning on studying it in November as part of a programme run by Oxford University to teach curious Pre-Uni students QM. The prerequisites for taking the course aren't much, just a knowledge of some basic maths and physics:
Good knowledge of school math and physics is required, including the basics of:
  • trigonometry
  • general problem-solving skills
  • theory of probabilities (including the notions of expectation value and variance)
From this I think it's safe to infer that it's probably a fairly approachable book.
 

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