Moisture detector with darlington

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The discussion focuses on designing a moisture detection circuit using a Darlington transistor to activate an LED when moisture causes a current of over 10μA between two copper wires. There is confusion regarding the correct resistor values, with one participant questioning whether the value should be 100Ω or 100KΩ. The Darlington transistor is noted to begin conducting at approximately 1.2V, and participants discuss the implications of current splitting at junctions in the circuit. There is also a debate about the proper application of Ohm's Law, with emphasis on the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in calculations and component selection for effective circuit design.
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Homework Statement



A pair of bare copper wires a, b is attached to a basement wall to detect the presence of moisture. Design a circuit, using a darlington transistor, to turn on an LED if the current flowing between the wires due to the moisture exceeds 10μA (use a current-sensing resistor to convert the current into a voltage which is then sensed by the darlington transistor). Use a 5V supply. Indicate component values.

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R = V/I = 5/10 = 0.5MΩ.

The correct answer for the earthed resistor is 100Ω but I don't understand how to get this.
 

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I suspect the correct answer is not 100Ω but 100KΩ. At what voltage does the Darlington begin to conduct?
 
skeptic2 said:
I suspect the correct answer is not 100Ω but 100KΩ. At what voltage does the Darlington begin to conduct?

It conducts when Vin > 1.2V.
 
So if you want to develop 1.2 V with 10 uA, what value resistor do you need?

(It might be that the Darlington begins to conduct at a Vbe of 1.0 V, at least for this example.)
 
skeptic2 said:
So if you want to develop 1.2 V with 10 uA, what value resistor do you need?

(It might be that the Darlington begins to conduct at a Vbe of 1.0 V, at least for this example.)

The way I see it is that 10μA splits at the common point where the transistor base line joins with R's line. But I am not sure how to calculate this current which flows through R, so that I can use R = V/I to calculate the correct R.
 
This example assumes all of the 10 uA goes through the resistor. Any current over 10 uA flows into the transistor and assumed to be sufficient to turn on the LED.

I am a little curious about your usage of R = V/I. R and I represent resistance and current whose units are ohms and amperes respectively. The product of those two quantities is electromotive force which is represented by E. V is the unit of electromotive force. Do your instructors teach Ohm's Law as V = I*R? In order to be consistent why not use V = A*Ω instead?
 
skeptic2 said:
This example assumes all of the 10 uA goes through the resistor. Any current over 10 uA flows into the transistor and assumed to be sufficient to turn on the LED.

Wouldnt this disagree with the rule that current spilts when 2 lines are joined? Although I do know that if Vin < 1.2 at the base, there is no IB.

skeptic2 said:
I am a little curious about your usage of R = V/I. R and I represent resistance and current whose units are ohms and amperes respectively. The product of those two quantities is electromotive force which is represented by E. V is the unit of electromotive force. Do your instructors teach Ohm's Law as V = I*R? In order to be consistent why not use V = A*Ω instead?

I have been taught it as V = I*R, and what ever component values are in the diagram are used without conversion e.g. if I = 10μA and R = 0.5MΩ then V = 10μA * 0.5MΩ and the "μA" and "MΩ" cancel ( 10^-6 * 10^6) and so you get V = 5V.
 
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