Moment area diagram indeterminate

In summary, the conversation is discussing the process of dividing an indeterminate question into 3 parts and analyzing the moment due to UDL and 5kn load. It involves calculating M (moment) and EItab (deflection) for different loads and lengths. The conversation also mentions a mismatch between the calculated result and the answer sheet.
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Part B the indeterminate question.

Divided the question into 3 Parts
Moment due to UDL

M = 2x4x2 = 16 Kn

EItab = Marea . Xa = 0
16 x 4 x 1/3 x( 1/4 x 4) ( parabola)

Due to 5kn Load

Split it up to on rectangular and on triangular load as the 5kn load goes to 6 m and analysing for 4 m to b.

M = 5 x 6 = 30
30 = 6
x = 4 therefore x = 20

=4x20x2 + 4 x 10 x 1/2 x ( 1/3 x 4)
=


Due to redundant reaction By
M = By x 4 = 4by


= - by4 x 4 x 1/2 x (1/3 x 4)


This gives a By of 19.49 instead of 11.125 specified in the answer sheet if added together as deflection = 0
 

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There seems to be a mismatch between your calculations and the attached diagram.
 

1. What is a moment area diagram for an indeterminate structure?

A moment area diagram is a graphical representation of the bending moments and deflections of a structure. It is used to determine the reactions, bending moments, and deflections at various points along the structure. In an indeterminate structure, the moments and deflections cannot be easily calculated using basic equations, so the moment area method is used to approximate these values.

2. How is a moment area diagram constructed?

A moment area diagram is constructed by plotting the bending moment at various points along the structure on the y-axis and the corresponding deflection on the x-axis. The area under the curve represents the total deflection at that point, and the slope of the curve represents the bending moment at that point. These values can then be used to determine the reactions and other properties of the structure.

3. What are the advantages of using a moment area diagram for indeterminate structures?

One advantage of using a moment area diagram is that it allows for the determination of reactions and deflections at any point along the structure, rather than just at specific points. This is especially useful for indeterminate structures, where the reactions and deflections cannot be easily calculated using basic equations. Additionally, the moment area method is a more accurate and precise approach compared to other methods, making it a preferred choice for analyzing indeterminate structures.

4. What are some limitations of the moment area method for indeterminate structures?

The moment area method assumes that the structure is linearly elastic, meaning that the relationship between load and deflection is linear. However, in reality, structures may exhibit non-linear behavior, which can lead to inaccuracies in the results obtained using the moment area method. Additionally, the method can become complex and time-consuming for structures with a large number of unknowns, making it less practical for some cases.

5. How does the moment area method handle discontinuities or changes in loading along the structure?

In the moment area method, discontinuities or changes in loading are handled by dividing the structure into smaller segments. The moment area diagrams for each segment are then constructed separately and then combined to obtain the total bending moment and deflection at any point along the structure. This allows for a more accurate analysis of structures with varying loading conditions.

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