Moment of Inertia of a thin uniform wire

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia for a thin uniform wire bent into a rectangle with given dimensions and mass. The moment of inertia for a solid rectangle is initially considered, but the participants recognize the need for a different approach since the wire is hollow. They suggest treating the rectangle as composed of four thin rods and discuss how to calculate the mass of each side based on its length. The importance of understanding the proportionality of mass to length is emphasized for solving the problem. Overall, the conversation highlights the challenges of applying the correct formulas for a hollow structure.
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Homework Statement


A thin uniform wire is bent into a rectangle. The short, vertical sides are of length a, and the long, horizontal sides are of length b. If the total mass is 31.00 grams, a = 25.00 cm and b = 44.30 cm, what is the moment of rotational inertia about an axis through one of the vertical wires?
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Homework Equations


I = 1/3mL^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the above equation, which is the moment of inertia for a solid rectangle. I knew it wasn't going to be right but I don't have an equation for a hollow rectangle. I tried modifying it by using 1/4 or 1/6 because I think the moment of inertia would be smaller for a hollow rectangle than a solid one.
 
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Think of the object as composed of four thin rods.
 
So the top and bottom would be I= 1/3 mL2 but it's only a portion of the mass, right? The right side would be I = mh2 and the h would be the length b. The only thing I can think of for the left side is the formula for a solid cylinder, but for that you need a radius.
 
Because the wires are assumed to be very thin, the left side has nearly no moment of inertia. You can assume I=0.
 
kelslee28 said:
So the top and bottom would be I= 1/3 mL2 but it's only a portion of the mass, right?
Right.
The right side would be I = mh2 and the h would be the length b.
Right.
The only thing I can think of for the left side is the formula for a solid cylinder, but for that you need a radius.
Think of it as being very thin.
 
Yes, I got it! Thanks a lot. I'm home sick with the flu so this means a lot that someone would help me.
 
I'm having trouble with this problem, too. I don't understand how to get the masses of the individual parts of the rectangle.
 
workinghard said:
I don't understand how to get the masses of the individual parts of the rectangle.
You have the total mass. Figure out the mass of each side, realizing that the mass is proportional to the length.
 
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