Monopole & Dipole Homework: Sphere + Line Charge

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The problem involves calculating the monopole and dipole moments of a line charge distribution in relation to a uniformly charged sphere. The sphere is centered at the origin, while the line charge is positioned parallel to the x-axis at a distance D from the origin in the y=0 plane.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of monopole and dipole moments, with some suggesting that the monopole moment is simply the total charge. Questions arise about the influence of the sphere's charge on the line's total charge and the choice of vector for calculating the dipole moment.

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Participants are exploring various approaches to calculate the dipole moment, including the use of superposition and changing the origin for calculations. There is a recognition of the need to consider the contributions from both the sphere and the line charge, but no consensus has been reached on specific methods.

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Participants note that the charges are fixed and that the forces between the line and the sphere do not need to be considered for the problem at hand. There is also discussion about the implications of the line's position relative to the sphere and the nature of the forces involved.

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A sphere of radius R and uniform charge density 'row' is situated at the origin. A uniformly charged line with length L and charge density 'lamda' (for simplicity assume L>2R) is a distance D from the origin in the y=0 plane and orientated so as to be parallel to the x-axis with is center on the z axis. What is the monpole moment of the line charge distribution? What is the dipole moment of the line charge distribution?



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I need a little help visuallysing and getting started. Thanks for the help in advance!
 
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The monopole moment should be easy, it's just the total charge. What is the definition of the dipole moment?
 
The dipole moment is the } r(s) * row * dtau Where } is the integral and r(s) is the vector pointing from source to the dipole moment. Would the charge of the sphere have any influence on the totla charge of the line?
 
No, the charges are as given. I'm sure you can assume all the appropriate forces are holding them in place, otherwise this would be a complicated dynamical problem.
 
That is what I was thinking. What vector would you choose for your source vector?
 
It's probably easiest to use superposition and the formula for changing the origin. Specifically, say you want to calculate the dipole moment with the origin at the center of the sphere. The part that comes from the sphere should be easy. If you get the part from the line, you can just add this to get the total moment. But rather than calculating this directly, you can calculate the moment of the line about the center of the line, and then shift from this origin to the original one at the center of the sphere.
 
Am I correct if I choose two arbitrary points at each end of the line to figure out the dipole for the line?
 
Also, if the line is moved a distance 'D' which is greater than 'R' would the force on it be zero? I am thinking no, because the force from the more top of the sphere is greater than the force on the bottom so they won't cancel out. I am assuming the same for the other two direction as well.
 
I don't know what you mean. If you choose two arbitrary points for what? And as far as the forces, as I said, you don't have to worry about them for this problem, but if you're just curious, there will always be a net force between the line and the sphere, unless they have charges of opposite signs and their centers coincide. There will also be sturcurual forces required to maintain their shapes, but these are more complicated.
 

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