Most efficient wire gauge for induction coils

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the most efficient wire gauge for induction coils, particularly focusing on the relationship between wire thickness, loop diameter, and current production. Participants explore theoretical and experimental aspects of wire selection in the context of coil design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a specific wire gauge is definitively the best for producing current, suggesting that it may depend heavily on the experimental setup.
  • Another participant recommends using a calculator to analyze different wire gauges and spacing, indicating that empirical testing could reveal trends.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the mathematical approach to determining the best gauge, noting the trade-off between wire thickness and resistance, and suggests that experimentation is necessary.
  • One participant shares their specific project details, including the use of number 12 wire and the configuration of their Ruhmkorff Coil, while discussing the implications of wire size on performance and ease of handling.
  • There is mention of various wire gauges (AWG 24, 28, 30, 40) and their potential effectiveness, but no consensus on which is optimal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best wire gauge for induction coils, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining about the optimal configurations and their effects on performance.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their knowledge, particularly regarding permeability and resistance calculations, and express a reliance on experimentation due to the lack of definitive answers.

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I am trying to find out which combination of wire loop diameter and thickness produces the most current. The problem with thin wire is obviously that it has a lot of internal resistance, but it is easier to wind in more loops. Does anyone know for a fact if a certain gauge/thickness is the best, or does it severely depend on the experiment's setup?
 
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Thanks for the response. I'm not sure about that calculator - I'll admit that I don't know a lot about this subject, and permeability especially. I know that wikipedia has a table of resistance per unit length for copper wire. I guess I'm just not sure how I would mathematically find which gauge is best, except through experimentation (and I don't own every gauge).

I'm sure that using wire that is .1 m thick wouldn't be very efficient, because few turns could get in. Other the other side, something that is .0000000001 m thick would be so thin that the resistance would probably be terrible. From anyone's experience, would it be better to use something like AWG 24, or 28, or 30, or 40 etc.?
 
I am currently winding a 6 Inch Minimum, Ruhmkorff Coil. I have a core 18"x1-1/2" I.D. I will wind 17 " of number 12, 2 layers, 250 Turns total. I will have the ability to run with the 250 turns, or 175, in parallel. The outside diameter of the insulated primary will be 2-1/2", so my "Pies"-"Yo-Yo's" will be 6.25", I will probably go to 6.5". So the Sides of the "pies" will be 7"-7-1/2". The Secondary will be 8.75", which is really .75 over specification, however, My inner and outer insulation will be "bullet proof". Also a good coil, should be able to be disassembled. Don't try and max out your spark, it WILL lead to a Failure. If your building a 6" Coil, Don't go over 7". Size 34 wire is good, 36, cannot alway handle the pressure, and it is MUCH harder to work with. Is it that important to have a smaller coil, give a bigger spark? If your in some kind of competition, go for #38 or #40. Have FUN! I could go on with specs, any questions please ask.
 

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