Motion of two balls which collide

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To determine the collision time of two balls—one thrown upward with speed v0 and the other dropped from height H—standard kinematic equations are employed. The upward motion of the first ball is described by s1 = v0*t - 0.5*g*t^2, while the downward motion of the second ball is given by s2 = H - 0.5*g*t^2. Setting s1 equal to s2 allows for solving the time t of collision. There is confusion regarding the signs of g in the equations, which should be consistent across both equations. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying kinematic equations to find the relationship between H, v0, and g.
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A ball is thrown straight up from the ground with speed v0. At the same instant, a second ball is dropped from rest from a height H, directly above the point where the first ball was thrown upward. There is no air resistance. How to I find the time at which the two balls collide. A how do I find the value of H in terms of v0 and g so that at the instant when the balls colide, the first ball is at the heighest point of its motion.

Anybody who can help?
 
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Is it this equation I need to use s = u*t + 1/2*a*t^2 ?
 
Yes. :smile:
 
Ball 1 (Going upward with a v0):

s1 = vo*t-0,5*g*t^2

Ball 2 (Dropped from a height H)

s2 = h-0,5*g*t

And then I need to find the time t:
s1 = s2

I get something crazy !

Is my method good?
 
Hi Faka! :smile:

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Faka said:
Ball 2 (Dropped from a height H)

s2 = h-0,5*g*t

you mean s2 = h - 0,5*g*t2 :wink:

otherwise, that's ok :smile:
 
Yes, its t^2 .
I think that I have made a mistake. Shouldn't it be:
Ball 1

s1 = Vo*t+0,5*g*t^2

Ball 2

s2 = h+0,5*g*t

Then
s1 = s2

I mean "+" instead of "-".
 
s2 = h+0,5*g*t^2
 
it doesn't matter whether you use +g and g = -9.81, or -g and g = -9.81 :wink:

show us your full calculations :smile:
 
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Ball 1 (Upward)
x1 = 0 + v0*t + 1/2*(g)*t^2
= vo*t + g*t^2

Ball 2 (Dropped)
x2 = h + 0*t + 1/2*(-g)*t^2
= h - 1/2*g*t^2x1 = x2

vo*t + g*t^2 = h - 1/2*g*t^2And then I solve for t, I get something that I can't write here. Its something divided by 2*g
 
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Faka said:
Ball 1 (Upward)
x1 = 0 + v0*t + 1/2*(g)*t^2
= vo*t + g*t^2

Ball 2 (Dropped)
x2 = h + 0*t + 1/2*(-g)*t^2
= h - 1/2*g*t^2

No, you can't have g in one equation and -g in the other. :redface:
 
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