MS in scientific computing or statistics from online courses

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The discussion revolves around the value of pursuing a master's degree in scientific computing or statistics, particularly through online programs. Participants explore the implications of online degrees for employment, the relevance of graduate certificates, and the importance of self-study in these fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in pursuing a master's degree but questions its value, particularly if obtained online, and wonders about the utility of a graduate certificate in statistics.
  • Another participant suggests that as long as the degree is from a reputable institution, the mode of delivery (online) does not diminish its respect among employers.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential disadvantages of online learning, particularly the lack of peer interaction, though it is noted that alternative sources of information can mitigate this issue.
  • Several participants agree that coursework from platforms like edX, Udemy, Coursera, and Udacity is beneficial and can provide a solid foundation for further studies or career advancement.
  • One participant highlights the relevance of spatial statistics in geology and suggests that the original poster's background in geology and GIS positions them well for a transition into statistics.
  • Another participant shares their personal experience with self-study and emphasizes the importance of quantitative skills, expressing a desire to have pursued more math courses during their undergraduate studies.
  • There is mention of specific requirements for graduate certificates, such as needing official credits in calculus and linear algebra, which may necessitate additional coursework.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that online degrees from reputable schools are respected, but there is no consensus on the overall value of online master's programs versus self-study or alternative qualifications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their knowledge of specific master's programs and the requirements for graduate certificates, indicating a reliance on personal experience and anecdotal evidence rather than comprehensive data.

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I find both subjects interesting, to the point where every night after putting the kids to bed, I spend a few hours self-studying, but I wonder if going back for a master's degree would be worth the effort. I know that if I want to do professional work in either of these two subjects I'll need to eventually get something on paper. Are master's programs worth the effort to employers if it's primarily online based? I know that some online based programs don't have the word online on the diploma. Would a graduate certificate in statistics be useful for getting into the field?

I finished a MS in geology and currently work in environmental consulting. I also know geographic information systems (GIS) and plan on going through several online classes(edx, udemy, coursera, udacity)/books, focusing on topics of GIS, computer science (mainly python for now, I'll tackle R later this year), math (calculus, linear algebra) and various levels of statistics.
 
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As long as the degree is from a reputable school, I have never noticed any decreased respect for a degree just because it was online. There are now a lot of on-line degree programs, although there may be some requirement to take some courses at the school. Many people who work in technical companies get help from the company they work at (financial, work schedule, computer access, etc.). My opinion is that a student is at a disadvantage when he takes a course online because there is so much information that is easier to get from conversations with other students. That being said, if you have other sources of information (like this forum, people at work, friends who know the subject, etc.) then you can minimize the disadvantage.

PS. I have heard that a Masters Degree pays for itself. I know people who have gotten them while they worked full time and raised children. I have great respect for them because I know that it is very hard. I don't think that I could do it.

PPS. I think that your choice of subjects (Python programming, R, etc.) that you are studying will be very beneficial in many jobs regardless of whether you get a degree.
 
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I'm not particularly familiar with too many Masters programs in statistics (I believe Johns Hopkins offers a MS in statistics online, but am not positive about this), but I concur with @FactChecker -- so long as the degree is from a reputable school, I don't see any particular issue in terms of respect for the degree itself because it was online.

I will concur that coursework through edX, Udemy, Coursera, or Udacity are excellent (I've taken refresher courses on Coursera myself), and the choice of topics you are taking a great head start in terms of direction you wish to take. Combined with your background in geology and environmental consulting and knowledge of GIS, I think you are very well-positioned to move into statistics, as spatial statistics (among many other areas in the field) are widely used in geology/earth sciences. I've personally known statisticians who started out in geology, so this is far from unusual.
 
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Thanks for the input.
 
StatGuy2000 said:
I'm not particularly familiar with too many Masters programs in statistics (I believe Johns Hopkins offers a MS in statistics online, but am not positive about this), but I concur with @FactChecker -- so long as the degree is from a reputable school, I don't see any particular issue in terms of respect for the degree itself because it was online.

I will concur that coursework through edX, Udemy, Coursera, or Udacity are excellent (I've taken refresher courses on Coursera myself), and the choice of topics you are taking a great head start in terms of direction you wish to take. Combined with your background in geology and environmental consulting and knowledge of GIS, I think you are very well-positioned to move into statistics, as spatial statistics (among many other areas in the field) are widely used in geology/earth sciences. I've personally known statisticians who started out in geology, so this is far from unusual.

I've enjoyed my self-study to the point that I look forward to studying after putting the kids to sleep (currently going through calculus). Edx, Udemy, Coursera and Udacity are all great, but I've noticed that to be accepted for even a graduate certificate in statistics (Colorado State University has an online grad certificate), I need official credits in Calculus and Linear Algebra (which could be done with evening classes at the local universities/colleges or online a university that offers it).

My best bet is probably to self-study and work on quantitative projects within my field (applying statistics toward environmental data which I've done some of e.g. calculating the UCL for a sample of soil data and/or getting into groundwater modeling projects), which wouldn't require going back to school. If I could redo college, I'd get a BS in math or statistics with minor in geology, then a MS in geology. I regret not taking more quantitative classes in college.
 

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