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[Mentz114]

Silver Fox writes ( my emphasis )-

First as several of you point out you think that the Bush administration is full of a bunch of blundering lying dolts that can't figure out the difference between their heads and a hole in the ground. For any administration to pull off the kind of deceit and forgery that is being suggested you would need some very sharp, savvy, and cunning people.

You mean Cheney, Wolfowitz, and their cohorts ? The puppeteers.

As for criminality, one of the charges at the Nuremburg tribunal was 'waging aggressive war' which is still considered a crime against humanity.

 

[turbo]

You mean Cheney, Wolfowitz, and their cohorts ? The puppeteers.

I have a depressing persistent image of Bush as Mortimer Snerd with the ventriloquist (Cheney) talking out the side of his mouth so the audience thinks the dummy is talking. Those of you who are under 50 may have to Google on Mortimer Snerd.

 

[Mentz114]

We have a cartoonist here (UK) who depicts our prime minister as a poodle of a certain simian who rules the USA. But it's hard to laugh while the damage goes on. I've just read through this entire topic and I have a sense of community with those who uphold freedoms, see injustice and deplore ( as Astronuc puts it ) depraved indifference.

 

[Skyhunter]

'pundits' rather than "experts".

I believe Moyers's program made the point that the 'experts' who made that case that 'aluminum tubes' were for high speed centrifuges were in fact 'unqualified' to make such an assessment. Typical for the Bush administration.

As Senator Dick Durbin has recently revealed, now that the information has been declassified:

"The information we had in the intelligence committee was not the same information being given to the American people. I couldn't believe it," Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat, said Wednesday when talking on the Senate floor about the run-up to the Iraq war in 2002.

He cited the White House's claim that Iraq was trying to acquire aluminum tubes needed for a nuclear weapons program -- details of which have since been declassified -- as an example of bad intelligence, saying that there was an ongoing debate within the administration as it was being used in public.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20070427-124842-1706r.htm

The Aluminum tubes in particular had been ruled out as usable for centrifuges by the DOE. I would guess that the "nucular" scientists there would be qualified to make such an assessment.

 

[edward]

One would think that a conspiracy to defraud the Congress and the American people would be illegal.

 

[turbo]

One would think that a conspiracy to defraud the Congress and the American people would be illegal.

One would think that such a conspiracy would rise to the level of war crimes under international law, too. The US media will not tackle this for fear of appearing "liberal". McCarthy's mistake was in demonizing individuals. Rove's improvement lies in demonizing ideas and politicizing otherwise "neutral" sectors of our government to enforce the administration's views.

 

[Skyhunter]

As Bill Clinton recently said, it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it right in front of us.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Did you see that one of Powell's former top aides called for Bush and Cheney to be impeached for high crimes?

...Lawrence Wilkerson, who was chief of staff to then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, said on the public radio program On Point Thursday that "Bill Clinton's peccadilloes ... pale in significance" when compared to the "high crimes and misdemeanors" of Bush and Cheney. [continued]

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Former_Powell_aide_says_Bush_Cheney_0510.html

First seen on CNN

 

[edward]

As Bill Clinton recently said, it is not a conspiracy, they are doing it right in front of us.

Dam, there goes the conspiracy to defraud charge

 

[Skyhunter]

Here is a productive way to spend a day at the beach.

http://beachimpeach.org/