Multivariable calculus equation of a plane

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the variable "d" in the equation of a plane in multivariable calculus, specifically in the context of the equation ax + by + cz = d. Participants explore its significance, whether it represents the distance from the plane to the origin or a shift along the normal vector, and how it relates to the geometry of the plane.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether "d" represents the distance of a point from the plane or the shifting of the plane along the normal vector.
  • One participant suggests that "d" can be interpreted as a shift along the normal vector, but acknowledges the ambiguity in this interpretation.
  • Another participant points out that the distance from the origin to the plane can be calculated using the formula |d| / √(a² + b² + c²), which gives a geometric meaning to "d".
  • There is a discussion about the intercepts of the plane, with specific values derived when setting variables to zero, illustrating how "d" relates to the x, y, and z intercepts.
  • Some participants emphasize that "d" by itself does not have a specific meaning, as it can change without altering the plane's position when multiplied by a constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of "d", with no consensus reached on its definitive meaning. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact significance of "d" in relation to the geometry of the plane.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the interpretation of "d" may depend on the context of the equation and the relationships between the coefficients. There is also mention of the need to reference calculus materials for further clarification on calculating distances from a plane to a point.

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equation of the form

ax+bx+cx=a0+b0+c0

ax+bx+cx=d


what exactly does "d" represent? is it the distance of a point from the plane? or is it the shifting of the plane along the normal vector of the plane?
and how does "d" represent that again?
 
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A way to write an equation for a plane in [itex]\mathbb{R}^3[/itex] is
[tex]\vec{w} \cdot \vec{r} = d[/tex]and the plane contains the point [tex]d\frac{ \vec{w}}{\left\|\vec{w}\right\|^2}[/tex] You can check that the above is true. Now if [itex]\vec{u}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] are parallel to the plane and one is not a scalar multiple of the other, then we could write the plane as [tex]\vec{r}(s,t) = d\frac{ \vec{w}}{\left\|\vec{w}\right\|^2} + s\vec{u} + t\vec{v}[/tex] since we can always parameterize the plane as a point on the plane plus scalar multiples of two spanning vectors added on.

So you could think that the plane has been shifted by [itex]d\frac{ \vec{w}}{\left\|\vec{w}\right\|^2}[/itex], which is along the normal. It is somewhat ambiguous perhaps because some other shifts in other directions would result in the same plane.

The above applies to planes in [itex]\mathbb{R}^3[/itex].
 
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iScience said:
equation of the form

ax+bx+cx=a0+b0+c0

ax+bx+cx=d


what exactly does "d" represent? is it the distance of a point from the plane? or is it the shifting of the plane along the normal vector of the plane?
and how does "d" represent that again?

I guess you mean ##ax + by + cz = d##, not what you wrote. In that case the quantity$$\frac{|d|}{\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}$$gives the distance of the plane from the origin.
 
Also, if x= y= 0 then cz= d so z= d/c, if x= z= 0 then by= d so y= d/b, and if y= z= 0 then ax= d so x= d/a. That is, (d/a, 0, 0), (0, d/b, 0), and (0, 0, d/c) are the x, y, and z intercepts of the plane.
 
LCKurtz said:
I guess you mean ##ax + by + cz = d##, not what you wrote. In that case the quantity$$\frac{|d|}{\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}$$gives the distance of the plane from the origin.

yes that's what i meant, could you show me how this yields the distance of the plane from the origin?
what does d itself represent?
 
LCKurtz said:
I guess you mean ##ax + by + cz = d##, not what you wrote. In that case the quantity$$\frac{|d|}{\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}}$$gives the distance of the plane from the origin.

iScience said:
yes that's what i meant, could you show me how this yields the distance of the plane from the origin?
what does d itself represent?

Look in your calculus book how to calculate the distance from a plane to a point and use it to calculate the distance to (0,0,0).

##d## by itself doesn't have any particular meaning. If you multiply the equation through by ##2## you will have the same plane but now ##2d## on the right side. So ##d## in relation to the coefficients is what is significant. And the formula above gives geometric meaning to it.
 

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