Multivariable calculus, partial derivatives

In summary, the conversation is about the chain rule and understanding the notation used in a problem. One person is confused and another person helps clarify by using more specific notation and explaining the chain rule. They also discuss how to evaluate the partial derivatives in the problem.
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Feodalherren
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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


Umm can somebody explain to me what just happened. None of that makes any sense to me what so ever.
 
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Are you familiar with the chain rule?
 
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Of course. The notation in this problem is so confusing that I can't follow what's happening.
 
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Let's use the notation ##G(s,t) = (u(s,t), v(s,t))##.

What you need to do is to compute

[tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial s} F\circ G[/tex]

What will that be according to the chain rule?
 
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Correct?
 
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What happened to ##F##? I can only see ##G## showing up.
 
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Ok I have no idea.. I can't remember what FoG means :/. You didn't even define F as anything?
 
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Feodalherren said:
Ok I have no idea.. I can't remember what FoG means :/. You didn't even define F as anything?

##F## is just an arbitrary differentiable map (as shown in the problem statement).

What ##F\circ G## means is that it is the map which sends ##(s,t)## to ##F(G(s,t))##.

Can you show me the chain rule you've learned (and perhaps the variations)?
 
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I've only learned the one that I demonstrated. You draw one of those trees and then just differentiate however many times you need to in order to get to the variable that you need.

I'm totally lost on the notation yet again.
 
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Feodalherren said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Umm can somebody explain to me what just happened. None of that makes any sense to me what so ever.

Is the "subscript" notation throwing you off? If so, forget it and use a more exact nomenclature: ##W = F(u,v)## gives
[tex] \frac{\partial W}{\partial s} = \frac{\partial F}{\partial u} \frac{\partial u}{\partial s}
+ \frac{\partial F}{\partial v} \frac{\partial v}{\partial s}\: \longleftarrow \text{ chain rule}\\
\text{ }\\ \text{or}\\
\text{ }\\
W_s = F_u u_s + F_v v_s[/tex]
etc.
 
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Ok that helps Ray. Now for the evaluation.

If I know Ws (1,0) then
s=1, t=0

Then I get:
u (1,0) and s (1,0).

Where do I evaluate the first therm dF/du?
 

1. What is multivariable calculus?

Multivariable calculus is a branch of mathematics that deals with the study of functions of multiple variables. It involves the use of derivatives, integrals, and vector calculus to understand and analyze how multiple variables affect a function.

2. What are partial derivatives?

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3. How are partial derivatives used in multivariable calculus?

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