Multivariable Double Integration Problem

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The problem involves a double integration of a function f(y) over a specified region defined by the bounds 2x^2 and x+1. Participants are tasked with rewriting the integral in a different form without integral signs, while also exploring the implications of changing the order of integration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to change the order of integration and question how the integration can transition from dy and dx to solely dy. There is mention of graphing the region to understand the bounds and the relationships between the variables.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the implications of switching the limits of integration and how it affects the integration process. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges posed by the unknown function f(y) and the need for clarity in the integration setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the specific bounds of integration and the requirement to express the integrals without integral signs. There is also a mention of the graphical interpretation of the region involved in the integration.

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1. The problem statement
Fill in the blanks ∫ [0,1] ∫ [2x^2,x+1] f(y) dy dx = ∫ [0,1] ( ) dy + ∫ [1,2] ( ) dy
The expressions you
obtain for the ( ) should not contain integral signs.

The brackets are the bounds of integration, and the open parenthesis are the blanks.


The Attempt at a Solution


I graphed the region and figured that the oder of integration has to be changed. I see that 2x^2 runs from (0,0) to (1,2) and that x+1 runs from (0,1) to (1,2) with these two creating the section we are integrating. It's unclear to me which how the integration goes from in terms of dy and dx to just being an integration in terms of dy.
 
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methstudent said:
1. The problem statement
Fill in the blanks ∫ [0,1] ∫ [2x^2,x+1] f(y) dy dx = ∫ [0,1] ( ) dy + ∫ [1,2] ( ) dy
The expressions you
obtain for the ( ) should not contain integral signs.

The brackets are the bounds of integration, and the open parenthesis are the blanks.


The Attempt at a Solution


I graphed the region and figured that the oder of integration has to be changed. I see that 2x^2 runs from (0,0) to (1,2) and that x+1 runs from (0,1) to (1,2) with these two creating the section we are integrating. It's unclear to me which how the integration goes from in terms of dy and dx to just being an integration in terms of dy.

Originally you have ##0 ≤ x ≤ 1## and ##2x^2 ≤ y ≤ x+1##.

Graphing the region yields ##0 ≤ y ≤ 2## by inspection while ##\sqrt{\frac{y}{2}} ≤ x ≤ y - 1##.
 
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How does inspection help when the new integrations are both in terms of dy?
 
You have a function ##f(y)## with a region that's already been nicely setup. The problem is, you don't know what ##f(y)## is directly, so you can't just integrate with respect to ##y## outright.

If you switch the limits first though, you are able to pull the ##f(y)## further out and then integrate in terms of ##x## first.

How does inspection help when the new integrations are both in terms of dy?

Simply breaking up the resulting integral into two integrals, you have found the answer.
 
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oh ok thanks i see how to do it now, thank you very much
 

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