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Can I get Na or NaO relatively easily and using not very complex/unfindable chemicals?
it is probably not easy. thhe onlly way i know of off the top of my head is to do electrolysis on a molten form of something like sodium chloride.
The P-manator said:NaCO3 + H2SO4 --> NaHSO4 + HCO3-
The P-manator said:NaCO3 + HCl --> NaOH + Cl + CO2 (I am not at all sure about this one. I had to re-do it a couple of times and I still don't know.)
The P-manator said:NaCO3 + H2O2 --> NaCO + H2O (This one I am pleased with, but I'm probably not right.)
The P-manator said:CuSO4 + H2SO4--> CuO2 + S2O4 + H2O2 (A lot of guessing work. Not at all sure on this one.)
The P-manator said:CuSO4 + 2HCl --> CuCl2 + H2SO4 (This one took a lot of re-doing as well and I have no clue about it.)
The P-manator said:CuSO4 + H2O2 --> Cu + H2SO6 (This one I think I might have found my goal, but once again it's scrappy.)
mrjeffy321 said:There is no way you are going to find a chemical reaction you can do in aqueous solution with a Sodium compound which will produce Sodium metal.
Well Lithium is an even more reactive metal than Sodium (several elements higher up on the activity series than Na), but it just doesn't give off as much energy when it reacts, or doesn't react as fast, or something since a Li + H2O reaction seems to be much less energetic than a Na + H2O reaction.Cesium said:Aqueous no. But I still have hopes for electrolysis in other solvents. There are some nonaqueous electrolysis possibilities for lithium, at least.
This would be a very interesting thermite reaction for sure, but it would be hard to preform. In order for the thermite reaction to proceed, you would need some Sodium salt (hopefully an Oxide if we want to stay true to classic thermite) and a more reactive metal. This business of needing a more reactive metal won't be easy as we would need to use something like Potassium or Lithium, metals in their own right are hard to get in their elemental form due to their high reactivity.You could also try some thermite reaction to produce sodium,
What kind of solvent were you thinking of? In order to dissolve the NaCl (or other Sodium Salt) you would need some type of polar solvent that at the same time would be harder to reduce than the Sodium in solution, not an easy combo to find.
The P-manator said:Can I get Na or NaO relatively easily and using not very complex/unfindable chemicals?
trinitrotoluene said:if of course its for an investigation and you have to find any easy way than i just thought why not try adding a small amount of solid pottassium to a solution of NaOH. the solution formed will be KOH and Solid Na will precipitate out.
trinitrotoluene said:don't know any current american suppliers but its much easier than wasting your time with pointless incorrect reactions.
The purpose of obtaining Na and NaO easily and without complication is to provide a simple and efficient method for scientists and researchers to access these chemicals for use in their experiments and studies. This can save time and resources, and allow for more accurate and reliable results.
There are several methods for obtaining Na and NaO without complication, such as purchasing them from chemical suppliers, synthesizing them in a laboratory setting, or isolating them from natural sources. The method chosen will depend on the needs and resources of the scientist.
Yes, both Na and NaO are highly reactive chemicals and can be dangerous if mishandled. It is important to follow proper safety protocols, such as wearing protective gear and handling them in a well-ventilated area. It is also recommended to have a trained professional supervise the process.
Yes, both Na and NaO can be obtained in large quantities if needed. However, it is important to keep in mind that the larger the quantity, the higher the risk and potential danger. Proper storage and handling procedures should be followed to ensure safety.
Na and NaO have a wide range of uses in scientific research, including in organic synthesis, as reagents in chemical reactions, and as sources of sodium ions in experiments. They are also used in the production of various compounds and materials, such as soaps and detergents.