NASA release new world salinty from satellite map

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The discussion revolves around a newly released satellite map of global ocean salinity, exploring its implications for understanding salinity patterns, potential applications in measuring droughts, and the calibration of satellite sensors. Participants engage in observations of specific regions and their salinity characteristics, as well as the technical aspects of the data collection process.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the visibility of geographical features like the equator and the Antarctic gyre on the salinity map, highlighting the influence of freshwater influx from rivers on coastal salinity levels.
  • There is a discussion about the Mediterranean Sea's high salinity concentration due to evaporation and limited drainage.
  • One participant questions the definition of "normal" salinity, suggesting it may refer to average salinity levels, while others clarify that the map reflects local salinity variations.
  • Technical details about standard sea water salinity and variations in different regions are provided, including specific practical salinity units (psu).
  • Concerns are raised regarding the calibration of the satellite sensors, noting that the data may be uncalibrated due to the short operational time of the satellite.
  • Participants mention the availability of ground truth data from scientific buoys and oceanography research vessels that can assist in calibrating the satellite data.
  • Links to additional resources and historical salinity data are shared to support the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the salinity data and its implications, with no consensus reached on the definitions of "normal" salinity or the calibration status of the satellite data. Multiple competing views remain regarding the accuracy and implications of the salinity measurements.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the calibration of new satellite sensors and the potential variability in salinity measurements based on geographical and temporal factors.

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Looks like a cool map. I think I can see the equator and the antarctic gyre. Drop off in salinity near coasts due to fresh water influx from rivers (Amazon in Brazil looks kind of obvious). India looks interesting: less saline off the east coast (brahma and indochinese rivers), and more saline off the west coast (indus river being the only major river). I am not seeing any deep sea features like mid-oceans ridges. Mediterranean must have very ristricted flow even with the Nile pouring into it.

Wonder how these could be used to measure droughts like we have here in Texas. Hopefully the project produces many more years worth of images without
 
The mediterrian is renowned for it's saline concentration, due to high evaporation and limited drainage.

It could also be predicted that the horizontal bands with less saline water in the Pacific and atlantic situated just north of the equator around 5 degrees lattitude will have shifted south of the equator in about six months,
 
Red and yellow colours denote areas of higher salinity; blues and purples represent areas of lower salinity. Areas coloured black represent gaps in the data.

Am I correct in assuming that the more or less saline are in relation to normal oceanic surface salinity and that all the purples are roughly the same salinity?
 
What do you mean by normal? Do you really mean average?

The salinity map shows the 'normal' salinity for the location. That is the whole point arctic and certain equatorial zones have lower than average salinity, and certain tropical zones have higher than average salinity at all times.
 
Standard sea water salinity is 35 psu (practical salinity units)


Fromhttp://nsidc.org/seaice/characteristics/brine_salinity.html"
The average salinity of the ocean typically varies from 32 to 37 psu, but in polar regions, it may be less than 30 psu.

I went to the NASA Aquarius site hoping that it would provide more info and a color scale; but, computer at work locked up trying to load it.
 
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Gannet said:
Am I correct in assuming that the more or less saline are in relation to normal oceanic surface salinity and that all the purples are roughly the same salinity?
The satellite has only been operational for two and a half weeks. That is almost certainly uncalibrated quick-look data. Two and a half weeks is not enough time to calibrate the sensors. The mission scientists almost certainly have an idea what the calibrations should be, but in remote telemetry those pre-launch calibrations can often be off by quite a bit, particularly so in the case of a new class of sensors.
 
Continuing with my previous post:

Fortunately there is plenty of ground truth data that be used to calibrate those new satellite sensors. There are lots of scientific buoys out in the oceans equipped with various sensors such as salinity sensors and with GPS receivers. Oceanography research vessels add to the mix.

Scientists have been measuring salinity for quite some time now. Here, for example, is a snapshot of the global sea surface salinity for Sept 26 2011:

[URL]http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/global_ncom/Links/glb/sal_glb8_3b_2011092600_0000m.gif[/URL]

The next link is an animated gif of the last year's such snapshots (I made it a link, rather an image, because this animated gif is 365 times as big as the above one day image):

http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/global_ncom/anims/glb/sss12m.gif

The site http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/global_ncom/ contains global ocean views as well as views that focus on specific oceans. For example, here's the Bay of Bengal, 12 month animated gif:

http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/global_ncom/anims/ben/sss12m.gif
 
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Thank you DH for the insight and links
 

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