Need a way to collect voltage from a constant source

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The discussion revolves around how to collect energy from a constant voltage source of 1 volt, with participants exploring methods to interconnect multiple electrode pairs to achieve a higher voltage output. The conversation touches on theoretical and practical aspects of electrical circuits, including series and parallel connections, and the nature of voltage versus energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on collecting energy from a constant 1 volt source, expressing frustration over a month of unsuccessful attempts.
  • Some participants suggest using the voltage source directly instead of converting it, questioning the need for intermediate steps that may waste energy.
  • There is a proposal to interconnect electrode pairs to achieve a higher voltage, but participants note that connecting them in series does not yield the expected results.
  • Concerns are raised about the vagueness of the original question, with requests for more specific information about the voltage source and setup.
  • One participant suggests that the electrodes may be connected in parallel, limiting the voltage output to 1 volt regardless of the number of pairs.
  • A suggestion is made to use capacitors to potentially store energy and allow for series connections.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of a Joule Thief circuit as a possible solution for achieving the desired voltage increase.
  • Some participants express frustration over the lack of clarity from the original poster, emphasizing the need for detailed descriptions and diagrams to facilitate assistance.
  • There are discussions about the possibility of the setup involving multiple rectifiers connected to an AC source, which could complicate the understanding of the situation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that more information is needed to provide effective help. There are multiple competing views on how to achieve the desired voltage increase, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the original poster's description, including missing details about the voltage source and the specific setup being used. There are unresolved assumptions about the nature of the source and the configuration of the electrodes.

Hasan Khalil
Say I have a constant source of 1 volt that will not diminish in volts during use and would like to collect that energy how would I do it. I have been trying To figure this out for the past month and source really appreciate some help. Thanks
 
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Hasan Khalil said:
Say I have a constant source of 1 volt that will not diminish in volts during use and would like to collect that energy how would I do it. I have been trying To figure this out for the past month and source really appreciate some help. Thanks
Why not just use the voltage source? Why go through some intermediate step of wasting energy while converting it to another form or a different voltage level only to have more waste when using it from the new source?
 
phinds said:
Why not just use the voltage source? Why go through some intermediate step of wasting energy while converting it to another form or a different voltage level only to have more waste when using it from the new source?
So for every collector in the source I receive 1 volt but the trick is when I interconnect the collectors I still receive that one volt. I would like to know a way to interconnect them and have the voltage add up.
 
Hasan Khalil said:
So for every collector in the source I receive 1 volt but the trick is when I interconnect the collectors I still receive that one volt. I would like to know a way to interconnect them and have the voltage add up.
This is all very vague. Please tell us what it is that you are really trying to do.
 
So I have a source that produces 1 volt of electricity. I have several electrode pairs put into this source. My multimeter shows that each of these pairs has one volt but I would like to interconnect this pair to say get two volts with two pairs interconnected. I could draw it out for u if it helps. Thanks
 
Thing is when I connect these electrodes I still only get one volt
 
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Is this what you're looking for (series and parallel circuits):

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Thank you I will try this tonight and let you know how it worked out
 
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I tried wiring in Series but it did not work
 
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Hasan Khalil said:
I tried wiring in Series but it did not work
Since it's hard to tell what you are talking about, you need to post a circuit diagram showing exactly what you are doing. In your initial post, you talk about having "a" source. Does this mean you really only have a single source?
 
  • #12
I have a feeling I may need to attach capacitors to my electrodes because the electricity is just going straight back into the source but if I use capacitors it will act like a battery and then I should be able to connect the in series. Any thoughts on this
 
  • #13
Yes it's a single source
 
  • #14
I'll make a circuit diagram an I will send it to u
 
  • #15
Hasan Khalil said:
Yes it's a single source

As has already been asked a couple of times with no clarification from you

WHAT is your voltage source ?

You are getting poor responses because you are giving poor information
You need to help us with good info so that the people here can help you. Else we are all just guessing on what you are doing
 
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  • #17
Huh? Just connect them in series as has already been said. It's trivial.
 
  • #18
So, I'm having trouble getting past the OP:
Hasan Khalil said:
Say I have a constant source of 1 volt that will not diminish in volts during use and would like to collect that energy how would I do it. I have been trying To figure this out for the past month and source really appreciate some help. Thanks
Do you understand that voltage isn't energy (or power)? And that many energy sources have a certain power output they are capable of, which means that when you harvest the energy the voltage goes down?

Also, it kind of looks like you are trying to multiply the energy from one source, as if you could add additional connections to a 1.5V battery to wire it in series with itself and increase the voltage. That doesn't work.

But all of this remains vague, since you won't tell us what the source is...

So: what is your energy source?
 
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Hasan Khalil said:
pretty diagram, but it still doesn't answer my question

one more time ...

WHAT is your voltage source ?

Be VERY specific ...
is it a device ... what / make and model
 
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  • #20
No matter what your source is:
  • if you have a single source;
  • if you have a constant 1 volt between each pair of electrodes, no matter how many pairs you have;
Then it is because the pairs of electrodes are all connected in parallel with the source.

The only way to convert 1 volt into 2 volts is to use a transformer between your source and your electrodes.
 
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  • #21
I think you may be able to achieve some sort of desired result with a circuit known as a Joule Thief. You can look that up and see if it will work for you.
 
  • #22
It's a shame that the OP is not a bit more forthcoming about this. It strikes me that he's got a set of voltaic cells that are sharing the same bath of electrolyte.
Car batteries have 2V cells and 6 totally separate containers of acids. He may have a solution if he uses more containers for his liquid - whatever it is.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
It's a shame that the OP is not a bit more forthcoming about this. It strikes me that he's got a set of voltaic cells that are sharing the same bath of electrolyte.
Car batteries have 2V cells and 6 totally separate containers of acids. He may have a solution if he uses more containers for his liquid - whatever it is.
If that is indeed what the OP wants to do, then I misunderstood. Effectively the electrodes connected in "series" are shorting out, and only the first and last electrode would provide a path (through the electrolyte).
 
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I actually just checked to see if anything new was on this forum and the funny thing is what you suggested is exactly what I did this morning what a coincidence. Thanks for contributing tho.
 
  • #25
I created an insulation around my electrodes
 
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Hasan Khalil said:
I actually just checked to see if anything new was on this forum and the funny thing is what you suggested is exactly what I did this morning what a coincidence. Thanks for contributing tho.
Is that the Joule Thief circuit, you are referring to? Or are you using an electrolyte, and separate into compartments?
 
  • #27
The screenshot mentions an AC source. That would seem to exclude all batteries.
 
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willem2 said:
The screenshot mentions an AC source. That would seem to exclude all batteries.
That confused me too. I sort of ignored it, in the absence of any serious description of the equipment.

I wonder why people assume that everyone knows what they are talking about when they want help.
If we only had :
"I am trying to do an experiment with the following equipment . . . . . . . . in order to achieve . . . . . . . . .. Here is a diagram of my setup . . . . . . . ."
And we would have been cooking on gas on the very second post of the thread.
 
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  • #29
Categorize under " A question well asked..."
 
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  • #30
Maybe, instead of electrochemical sources, we are dealing with many rectifiers, connected to the same AC source. Exactly the same thing applies when there is a 'shared' Ground.
Pleeeeease, OP, tell us some more details. I am losing sleep over this one. :frown:
 

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