Aristotle
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Homework Statement
Homework Equations
Static equilibrium: Net force & net torque = 0
The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to torque and static equilibrium, specifically involving a gantry crane setup. Participants are exploring the relationships between various forces and angles in the context of static equilibrium.
There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to express sin θ in terms of the crane's dimensions. Some participants are questioning the validity of their expressions and the relationships between the variables involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the geometry of the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the correct formulation.
Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the definitions of angles and the relationships between various lengths in the setup. There are indications of differing interpretations of the geometry involved, particularly concerning the triangles formed by the crane's structure.
SteamKing said:You are introducing an extra quantity d1 into your calculations, which will be difficult to calculate. Find an expression for sin θ based on L and H for the gantry crane as shown in the diagram.
Aristotle said:Either way even with replacing d1 with H, I still get Ft = (mgx+MgL/2) /(L sin(theta) ) . Am I on the right step?
SteamKing said:d1 ≠ H, and the expression for sin θ is a little more complicated than that. Your expression for FT is correct.
Jilang said:Yes, it's absolutely fine. But can you express sin theta in terms of H and L ?
Aristotle said:If I can't call the line of the pivot point perpendicular to the cable d1, what should I call it? I'm a little confused on what you mean. Isn't that all I'm looking for anyways: the tension in the cable as a function of the load position x? - which was the expression i found?. :/
SteamKing said:There's another triangle (which you are overlooking) which can give you an expression for sin θ. (Hint: the cable holding the support arm forms the hypotenuse of this triangle)
Aristotle said:The only triangle I see is the top triangle and bottom triangle and the triangle on the left with d1.
sin theta = H/L
How else can you derive the sin theta?
Sorry about that, sin theta = H / sqrt (L^2 + H^2) :DSteamKing said:sin θ is not H / L. You should review your trigonometry, especially the definitions of the sine, the cosine, and the tangent.