Need Help: 2V DC to 2V AC conversion at 1 MHz

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of a DC signal ranging from -2 V to +2 V into an AC signal with a similar amplitude at a frequency of approximately 1 MHz. Participants explore various methods for achieving this conversion, including amplitude modulation and the use of function generators, while also addressing the context of data acquisition requirements.

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Main Points Raised

  • Markus initially seeks a method to convert a DC signal to an AC signal suitable for an AC-coupled DAQ card.
  • One participant suggests that amplitude modulation could be a viable approach for the conversion.
  • Markus later indicates that the problem was resolved using the built-in amplitude modulation of a function generator.
  • Another participant questions how to differentiate the sign of the AC wave, noting that the waveforms for -2 V and +2 V appear similar.
  • A different participant points out that while the magnitudes are the same, the phases are shifted by 180°.
  • Concerns are raised about the method chosen for digitizing the signal, with suggestions that there are potentially better approaches, such as isolated ADC arrangements.
  • Markus defends the chosen method, stating that using a function generator was more efficient than designing new circuits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the chosen method for conversion, with some advocating for alternative solutions while others support the use of a function generator. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the lack of information about the overall system may hinder the evaluation of the proposed solutions. There are also indications that the problem description could be clearer to facilitate better suggestions.

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Hi at all,

I need to convert a DC signal ranging from -2 V to +2V to a AC signal with an amplitude of approximately the same voltage at let's say 1 MHz. The frequency can vary but has be higher than 10 kHz. I looked for PSW inverters but didn't found any suitable.

Our intention is to record a DC signal (between -2 V and +2V) with an AC coupled DAQ card (Cut-Off 10 kHz).

best regards and thanks in advance

Markus
 
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PS: the desired conversion should look like this:
20150903_DCtoAC.png
 
ju.hu. said:
PS: the desired conversion should look like this:View attachment 88163
This looks like a job for Amplitude Modulation.

There are lots of potential problems, but it's a very mature technology. Read up on it and if you have questions, ask here.
 
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Thanks for the quick reply. Problem is solved:

Built-in amplitude modulation of a function generator. Sorry for not conceiving of this approach from the very first.

best
 
re that image attached to post #2

How will you tell sign ? AC wave for -2 looks just like +2's to me.
 
Regarding its magnitude: yes, but it is phase shifted by 180°
 
ju.hu. said:
Hi at all,

I need to convert a DC signal ranging from -2 V to +2V to a AC signal with an amplitude of approximately the same voltage at let's say 1 MHz. The frequency can vary but has be higher than 10 kHz. I looked for PSW inverters but didn't found any suitable.

Our intention is to record a DC signal (between -2 V and +2V) with an AC coupled DAQ card (Cut-Off 10 kHz).

best regards and thanks in advance

Markus

Seems like a pretty awkward way to digitize that signal. Why are you doing it that way? There are lots of ways to do an isolated ADC arrangement...
 
Regarding the system inwhich we would like to implement this DC to AC conversion, another signal defines the acquisition (rate, coupling, ...). Thus, this DC signal needs to be converted to match the acquisition parameters.
 
ju.hu. said:
Regarding the system inwhich we would like to implement this DC to AC conversion, another signal defines the acquisition (rate, coupling, ...). Thus, this DC signal needs to be converted to match the acquisition parameters.

Is this a school assignment meant to teach you some particular skills, as opposed to a real life design where you would want to optimize the design? Your description of the problem to be solved is quite obscure so far, I must say.
 
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Sure, but this is just because you don't have any information about our system, which in general is not needed for solving the issue of converting a "DC signal (...) to a AC signal" as asked at the beginning.

Finally, problem is solved; thanks a lot.
 
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ju.hu. said:
Sure, but this is just because you don't have any information about our system, which in general is not needed for solving the issue of converting a "DC signal (...) to a AC signal" as asked at the beginning.

Perhaps, but too often inexperienced engineers go down the wrong path trying to design a solution. What they come up with is not as reliable and accurate as could be obtained with a better solution. Isolated ADC conversion is a very proven technology, and likely cheaper and more accurate than the design you have chosen. Just an FYI that is often better to take a step back and look at the overall system when designing circuits. :smile:
 
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function generator was available - no need to design circuits and loose time and money for the tests we wanted to perform.
 

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